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This interview is being conducted at The Carter Center in Atlanta, Georgia on Sunday, March 28, 2010. The interviewer is Nancy Hilyer. To begin with, I want to thank you on behalf of David J. Sencer, who initiated this project to document oral histories from persons who have been instrumental in eradicating Guinea worm from the world.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2.84,42.22907"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=42.22907,43.11862"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e You are one of those persons. Will you please state your full name and state for the record that you know this interview is being recorded?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=43.11862,54.23793"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, my name is Teshome Gabre Kano, and I'm aware that this interview is being conducted now with my colleague, former colleague, Nancy Hilyer. So, thank you very much for giving me the opportunity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=54.23793,72.748"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Thank you, Teshome. Teshome, you were born in Ethiopia?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=72.748,78.012"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=78.012,79.33509"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e What was, what was the area of Ethiopia? What was the town?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=79.33509,81.9"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Hossana [Hossana, Ethiopia]. Hossana is the name of the town.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=81.9,84.4"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e H-o-s-a——?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=84.4,85.656"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Hossana. Yeah, in the Bible——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=85.656,86.456"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, really?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=86.456,86.88"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e That name is in the Bible even.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=86.88,88.56"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e H-o-s-a-n-a.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=88.56,90.6"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, double 's,' maybe.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=90.6,93.44"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Two s's. Hossana——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=93.44,95.29249"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=95.29249,95.70689"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e In Ethiopia. In what year? What——?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=95.70689,96.74291"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e According to the European calendar, it is November of 1954.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=96.74291,102.29039"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e 1954.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=102.29039,103.712"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=103.712,105.28"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e So, can you briefly described for me what Ethiopia was like culturally, and politically, in 1954——or in the fifties when you were young? What——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=105.28,118.89"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, when I was born, Emperor Haile Selassie was the king in Ethiopia. He was the ruler of Ethiopia, and——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=118.89,129.53"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e He was a well-known personality in this country, this country.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=129.53,131.554"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Well known, yes, all over the world; he's a very well-known person all over Africa. He was one of the people who founded the African Union; now it's called Africa Union, in those days it was called Organization of African Unity, OAU. So, he was a prominent figure who fought the Italian invaders and liberated Ethiopia. In fact, Ethiopia was not colonized; it's one of the countries that were not colonized by Western powers. So, he was a leader, and our system was more of——private, you know, it was dominated by private ownership of land, land and all kinds of means of production. So, the communists called it a “feudal bourgeoisie” society, or feudal——there were some feudals who are owning the land, and there were tenants who were farming for their landlords. And that was the predominant system, social system, at the moment when I was born.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=131.554,211.888"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Very similar to the——what was going on in England one hundred years——500 years before. Right, right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=211.888,219.24"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, exactly, so that was the situation; we had very small schools, schools were concentrated in towns and urban areas only. Rural areas didn't have access to health, education, and all kinds of, you know, all kinds of civil service, public services. And mainly our society was characterized by, you know, few, few——few people, you know, enjoying the best of life and privileges, and the big majority were living in a very difficult life. So anyway, that was society and, in fact, I'm not sure if that has changed much over the years, but definitely there are, there is some progress. But not to the extent that we really wish ——where we want to be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=219.24,278.74"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, Hossana, how small, how small was that area? Was it——?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=278.74,282.604"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Hossana is about 230, maybe, kilometers from Addis Ababa [Ethiopia] to the south. And it’s a town where——I don’t know those days what the population was because I was not grown up there. I was just born there and then later on left that area with my father, because my father was a public servant; he was going from district to district, from region to region. So, I was all over the country, so, I was not grown-up in one locality. But I think it was a good town, fairly, fairly big town, I can say, in those days. And there was a high school, I remember there was primary schools, and so on, but I was not taught there. So it is, I think——maybe those days it was with a population of something like 10,000 or 15,000.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=282.604,338.94"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e But you were actually educated in your early years in different places all over?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=338.94,342.804"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e In different places, I was in Ethiopia, yes. I was in Addis, I was in a place called Assella [Ethiopia], I was in a place called Aseb [Eritrea]——now part of Eritrea. And again, I went to the southern part called Arba Minch [Ethiopia]. And so, I——it took me eight years to complete my primary school, which others completed six years, because of my frequent travel and so on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=342.804,367.09183"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Your changing——sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=367.09183,367.87776"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. But——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=367.87776,368.59534"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e What was your life like? Was it a very urban type of life?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=368.59534,372.09358"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, exactly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=372.09358,372.34585"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Since you were going from city to city or town to town? Yours was an urban——?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=372.34585,376.13"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't know——there were a——I just came to know the rural areas after joining public health.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=376.13,380.5917"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e After you were an adult?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=380.5917,381.62612"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e I was just a pure town boy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=381.62612,386.47339"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e And so. this was your mother and father——many brothers and sisters? Or——?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=386.47339,388.668"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, I had eight; we are all eight, four boys and four——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=388.668,394.69763"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Four girls.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=394.69763,395.85558"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Four girls. And I am the first one, first born.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=395.85558,397.87525"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e You are the oldest?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=397.87525,398.58667"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e So, all were my youngers. And out of my brothers, two have passed away for various reasons; one was a car accident, and the other one was sickness. So, now six of us are alive. My younger brother is a medical doctor who lives here, very close to this place, in the Caribbean Islands, in Trinidad and Tobago.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=398.58667,422.73574"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh really?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=422.73574,423.43441"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e He works for WHO [World Health Organization], yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=423.43441,424.72535"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Is that right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=424.72535,425.7568"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e My immediate younger brother; the rest are all in Ethiopia.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=425.7568,428.53925"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e In Ethiopia?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=428.53925,429.52034"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=429.52034,431.74398"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, as a young person in the urban areas, were you even aware of Guinea worm? Had you seen it at all? As a young person had you——?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=431.74398,440.34"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Not at all, even when I graduated from Gondar Republic College, I had no idea of what Guinea worm looks——looked like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=440.34,451.14"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Sure. I know that African cultures can be uniquely different from the Western cultures in regards to religion and customs, and Ethiopia even different from other African cultures——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=451.14,462.524"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Absolutely, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=462.524,463.106"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e What religious association did you grow up with? A Christian? Traditional? Muslim?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=463.106,472.09"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e I am a Christian. My parents were Orthodox Christians, and——but I was also just following their path for some time, but later on, I became a Protestant Christian. So now I am a Protestant Christian, Pentecostal,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=472.09,489.148"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Is that right? I remember that; I had forgotten that, that's true.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=489.148,492.708"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Even now, after the interview, I'm rushing to the church, so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=492.708,494.908"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh really?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=494.908,495.84182"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=495.84182,496.28649"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e How has that impacted your life, Teshome?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=496.28649,500.23916"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Sorry?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=500.23916,500.68833"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Your, your religion——how has that impacted your life and your work?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=500.68833,505.18"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, absolutely. My religion, especially after re-converting to Protestant Christianity, where I had the opportunity to study the Bible and to learn more about the gospel truths and so on, I was really very much inclined to really, you know, be as honest a person as possible and to be a person of integrity, a person of commitment, a person dedicating his life to society; because that was the example Jesus set for us. So, it was really my faith, my personal faith, faith in Jesus Christ that really helped me to really be a committed health worker and community servant, you know, or public servant in general. So that was really very, very helpful for me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=505.18,560.432"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Interesting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=560.432,561.056"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. And also, most of all, you know, Jesus taught us to love one another and to love, to give ourselves to people. And also, the Bible tells that, do your work as you do it unto the Lord. So, there are several biblical principles that really——that really——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=561.056,585.77"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Really speak to you, they really speak to you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=585.77,586.906"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. Speak to me so that I can be as committed and as loyal and as, you know, what's the——dedicated, you know, servant of my institution, my program, and so on, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=586.906,603.848"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e You're a minority in that religion, aren’t you? Aren't most of Ethiopians Coptic, Coptic Christians?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=603.848,607.15048"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e In Ethopia? Yeah, yes, yeah——Coptic or Orthodox Church.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=607.15048,611.03117"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Or Orthodox?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=611.03117,611.8424"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, that’s where it comes from, but our——my group is now in the minority, but we have, we have been growing; now perhaps not less than twenty percent by this time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=611.8424,624.822"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Twenty percent of Ethiopians? Fifteen——?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=624.822,626.78138"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, maybe fifteen percent, fifteen, fifteen percent I think, maybe I'm exaggerating a little bit.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=626.78138,631.19"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Interesting. Just as the rest of the world seems to be divided into tribe——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=631.19,635.294"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=635.294,636.39"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Created by religions and politics and geography——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=636.39,640.89211"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=640.89211,642.10046"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Tribalism exists in Ethiopia also.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=642.10046,643.89374"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=643.89374,645.21116"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e What role do you think ethnic, tribal, racial discrimination has played in the interruption of Guinea worm? Does it interfere with empathy for people with that disease?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=645.21116,660.83"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, actually, I am afraid if there has been any, if this ethnic discrimination has any role to play in the Guinea Worm Program, because those people where we had the Guinea worm, which is, you know the places, South Omo [Ethiopia] and Gambella [Ethiopia], of course, were areas that were really completely neglected, areas that were forgotten. It's not because of their ethnicity, but because the areas were all across the borders, and mainly in Ethiopia, as you have seen, it is the central highlands, people from central highlands that were really given all the privilege of education and relatively good, having good, good infrastructure, having good infrastructure and service, social services.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=660.83,716.22"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Which is your background? I'm sure——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=716.22,717.46"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Which is my background, definitely. But those peripheral areas and remote places like Gambella [Ethiopia] and South Omo [Ethiopia] were definitely neglected for——during the past several years. Nobody knew those places, especially the South Omo, the Guinea worm endemic area in South Omo. Myself, came——I just came to know it because I joined the program. Otherwise, I have served as a program, I mean, in the health service for the last, for about fifteen years about, before joining the Guinea Worm Program. But I had no idea of what those people looked like. So, to a limited extent, yes, these people were marginalized, completely downtrodden, neglected in many ways and, and Guinea Worm Program was really very instrumental in reaching these people and showing them the way to health, at least to, you know——these people had no idea what health and disease are; if there is any relationship with, you know, microorganisms causing diseases, and so on. These things were completely unheard of or something unimaginable for these people. They don't have or didn't have any idea. Although there were some missionaries working in those areas, they were completely marginalized. And the missionaries were also doing some clinical works [inaudible]; simply whenever the people come, they treat them and go, and so on. But it was, for the first time, the Guinea Worm Program that penetrated deeply into these communities and showed the people that they are——they were contracting the disease from contaminated water. The disease relationship was just——nobody had any idea about it. They were thinking that because Guinea worm was usually occurring during the rainy season, they thought Guinea worm was coming from the rains, from above.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=717.46,842.62159"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Sure, sure, sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=842.62159,843.69824"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e And so that was their thought, even to the very closely un——to mostly certainly even, these people had that kind of thought. Even though we were really hammering a lot to teach them that this is coming from contaminated water, and so on. Just because of their background, you know, they immediately still tend to believe that it was coming from the rains, from above. But now, in those places, the disease is gone; in most places, especially in South Omo, there is no Guinea worm. And they came to know that it was really caused by water, or by contaminated water, you know. It was not coming from God, because if that was true, the rains are still raining, and they should have contracted the disease.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=843.69824,885.18446"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e And everybody in Ethiopia should have the disease? After——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=885.18446,887.98032"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Exactly, and everybody should have the disease.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=887.98032,888.68281"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Not just down in Omo.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=888.68281,889.32961"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e The most important, yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=889.32961,891.67248"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Teshome, what about your formal education?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=891.67248,895.81013"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, my formal education, I was——I graduated first from the public health college, which is the only college in public health in Ethiopia, from Gondar [Ethiopia].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=895.81013,906.52"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e It's like a two-year program or three——?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=906.52,907.73142"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e It's a three-years program.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=907.73142,908.96804"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Three-year program. Wow, wow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=908.96804,909.99503"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e It’s a diploma program, advanced diploma, college diploma program. And later on, in fact, I was just working in different programs, and, therefore, I didn't have a chance to go back to college for formal education. So, I did my further studies through distance education. And I had my master's degree from American Century University here in New Mexico, Albuquerque, and I'm still now doing my PhD [Doctor of Philosophy] from the same university.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=909.99503,938.45"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e You're doing it long-distance?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=938.45,939.818"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, long-distance.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=939.818,940.386"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Over the internet or——over the internet?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=940.386,941.73"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, online.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=941.73,943.194"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Online, is that right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=943.194,944.506"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=944.506,945.386"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e It's a new day, isn't it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=945.386,946.362"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e It's a new day, yes. Now I am, I am almost finishing my PhD.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=946.362,951.61"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e And that PhD is in public health——?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=951.61,953.79052"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Healthcare management, yes, in healthcare management——public health, yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=953.79052,957.77"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e I assume now, somewhere along the line here, you married and had children?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=957.77,963.61"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, I married thirty-two years ago.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=963.61,967.215"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Thirty-two years?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=967.215,968.039"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. And I have four children, all boys.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=968.039,971.335"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Four boys.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=971.335,972.17773"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e And the youngest is now twenty-one; the eldest is twenty-nine.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=972.17773,975.97"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Twenty-one to twenty-nine.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=975.97,977.48467"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=977.48467,978.78295"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e And they are in Ethiopia?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=978.78295,980.514"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e They are all in Ethiopia, yes. The first one——the first three have graduated, completed their college education, and the youngest one, the fourth one is still in college.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=980.514,991.756"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e That must be a good feeling?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=991.756,993.204"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=993.204,996.82"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e In Ethiopia, there are a number of languages spoken, aren't there——are there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=996.82,1000.71659"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1000.71659,1000.7624"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e What is your native language and how many languages do you speak? I know you speak English very well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1000.7624,1007.572"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, I speak normally, out of the Ethiopian native languages, I speak Amharic, which is our official language, and that is my language. The only language I speak out of the so many languages in the country. But I——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1007.572,1019.796"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Is Amharic understood around——?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1019.796,1022.94"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, it's the official language of the country, but it’s only understood by those who have gone to school and who have been educated or who have lived in urban areas, and so on. It is spoken all over the country, especially in the big towns, but when you go to the rural areas, the people tend to speak their ethnic, local language. So, there are about eighty, eighty ethnic languages in the country and everybody speaks, speaks his own, their own language.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1022.94,1056.008"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e But Amharic and English probably are——?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1056.008,1058.048"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Are the predominant, Amharic and English are the predominant, official languages I can say.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1058.048,1067.85"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Did you do any other type——?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1067.85,1068.954"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e But I understand some other languages, like Oromo, Oromo language, which is the second biggest language in the country. And——what else? That’s it, I think, I understand a little bit, but not very fluent.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1068.954,1085.32154"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e I think our driver in Sudan——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1085.32154,1088.93161"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e He's from Amhara [Ethiopia]?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1088.93161,1090.05975"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Zack, Zack Bukhari. [Note: the person this conversation is referring to is actually named Tenagne Belay. Zack Bukhari was a driver in Ghana.]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1090.05975,1091.94"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, no.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1091.94,1092.508"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Do you remember Zack? I think——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1092.508,1093.716"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e No, no, I thought you were referring to that one——the Ethiopian guy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1093.716,1098.66"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e He is Ethiopian?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1098.66,1100.356"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e No, the Ethiopian guy——is, who is it? You were telling me his name repeatedly——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1100.356,1104.708"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e It's Zak Bukhari?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1104.708,1106.188"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e No, no.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1106.188,1109.22"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e In Sudan?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1109.22,1111.212"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e In Sudan, yes, in Khartoum [Sudan]. I——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1111.212,1114.27"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e He was displaced and then has never been able——oh, his wife was from Ethiopia? I think he was also, Teshome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1114.27,1123.25352"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e No, Zack is not——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1123.25352,1124.92901"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Because he——well, he spoke Amharic; because I know he’s Christian, Coptic Christian. And I remember him telling me Amharic was——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1124.92901,1133.17575"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Who?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1133.17575,1134.14686"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Jesus’ religion, that was the original, you know, that was the religion that Jesus——the language that Jesus spoke.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1134.14686,1141.31521"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah——Amharic?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1141.31521,1142.54"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1142.54,1142.55"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e No, he spoke Hebrew.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1142.55,1146.27"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, well, don't——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1146.27,1147.43"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Jesus, he didn't speak to Amharic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1147.43,1149.206"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, don't tell Zack that, alright?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1149.206,1151.814"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, yeah——not Zack actually.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1151.814,1154.75"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Did you do any other type——?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1154.75,1156.478"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e You can ask Elvin [Hilyer]; he will tell you a different name, I am sure. Even when you are telling me——I will tell you the name anyway.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1156.478,1165.734"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Before we get finished, it'll come to you? Okay, alright.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1165.734,1166.50427"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, I hope it will come into my head.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1166.50427,1169.59264"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Did you do any other type of work, other than public health work? Have you ever been involved in any other type work?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1169.59264,1177.142"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1177.142,1178.18429"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e No?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1178.18429,1178.61857"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e All my life public health.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1178.61857,1180.79"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e And your——what was your path to public health? Was that your father's area? In the civil service or——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1180.79,1186.902"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, my father also used to work for the Ministry of Health when I was attending the public health college. It was not his influence, but it was just a matter of chance or coincidence, I don’t know. He was working for administration; he’s not technical public health person, but he was a hospital administrator.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1186.902,1210.16"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e He was a hospital administrator?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1210.16,1212.104"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Hospital and also in the regional health department. He was a personal manager? Something like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1212.104,1217.728"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, what did lead you to public health? Why did you go that direction?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1217.728,1220.92"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Just chance. I can’t tell you specifically, because in our country you can’t, you——I would have loved to choose, of course, public health; that was my interest from the very beginning. From the onset I liked that, either public health or medicine or something like that related to health, anyway. But I think it was just——I was lucky to join this program, because it comes randomly, you know? You don’t, you——there are my colleagues, there were my colleagues who, my classmates who wanted to go to that college, for example, they didn’t, they didn't manage to go. So, I could simply say it was a chance, but, of course, there were other streams where I could have gone. For example, there was Air Force, there was Military Academy, there were teacher training institutes and there were a number of options that were available for me at those times because I was a good student in the high school. So——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1220.92,1285.588"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e So, you had choices? You choose it——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1285.588,1287.044"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, I had opportunity to choose. I was top ranking student at school in those days.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1287.044,1293.66"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Did I hear something about you and Don Hopkins being in a smallpox program?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1293.66,1301.71"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1301.71,1302.214"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Were you and Don——?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1302.214,1303.67"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, I——we were both in the Smallpox Eradication Program, but we didn’t know each other in those days. Yeah, he was in Sierra Leone or something like——in West Africa, he didn’t work in East Africa. And I was a junior staff. He was, of course, those days international staff from CDC [Centers for Disease Control and Prevention]. I came to know that he was a smallpox fighter later on, after joining Guinea worm, but, in those days, I didn’t know him.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1303.67,1331.05"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e But you were working in Ethiopia? In——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1331.05,1332.858"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, I knew one other guy from Latin America. I forgot his name; he’s a very famous guy in smallpox eradication. But I forgot his name; maybe he was from Cuba or from——he was a friend of Doctor Hopkins anyway, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1332.858,1351.81"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Now Elvin [Hilyer] remembers a dream that you told him about that you had a long time ago about Don Hopkins.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1351.81,1360.11541"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1360.11541,1360.86812"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e He said it was significant to you, he had sort of forgotten the dream——?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1360.86812,1364.13878"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1364.13878,1365.11997"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e But it led you career-wise in a direction. Do you remember that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1365.11997,1368.816"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, yes, I do. Maybe I have to really try to shorten it; otherwise, if I present the long form, we may spend the whole day here. So, let me try to briefly just explain to you. I was in a dilemma at one time, you know, I wanted to——I was working for Guinea worm in the Ministry of Health; I was the first national coordinator for the Guinea Worm Program. And as I was working there, since I didn’t have my degrees those days, I wanted to join——there was an opportunity for me where I was invited to go and join the university for further academic career. To earn my degrees, you know? And I was now confronted with a challenge; which one to choose? I wanted to have, to improve my academic qualification, and get a degree in public health, and so on, especially that would lead me to a master’s degree, so that I can——I had always dreamed to be a school, a university lecturer. Teaching was my number one choice, especially in public health, you know, if I had the opportunity. And therefore, I thought it would have been nice for me to join and add my master’s degree and then go join one of the universities here to teach. But, I had also a big desire to continue working for Guinea worm and get rid of it, and add to my portfolio, because I worked for smallpox program, although it was in the final phase of eradication. Because I was very young in those days when smallpox was, program was in place. So, I was in a dilemma——because I thought the Guinea Worm Program would be finished in those two years or so. So, I said what if I stay here and finish, and I will get the big credits because I was the beginner and the finisher, you know——from the beginning to the end. So, that is also by itself a big degree, more than a PhD, I say in my heart and to myself. But still, you know, I would be required to have some qualification, and that——an academic career is also very important for me. So, I was struggling. And Doctor Hopkins and others——I had also special love for them, respect, and so on. And they have imparted on me, you know, big vision of this Guinea worm. I have already shared it, and I am already, I mean, racing, you know, with them, along with them and I didn’t like to come out of that, that championship, you know?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1368.816,1543.06843"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1543.06843,1544.05425"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e So, I was in a big dilemma. So, I was praying for——asking God to lead me, to give me guidance, to lead me to make the right choice. So, in those days, I just came up——it so happens that I was travelling somewhere; I was out of Addis and I was just sleeping and I saw a dream. In that dream, a certain friend of mine was rushing to me, to my home in Addis, and his name was Ashadre. Ashadre, just, I was——he was rushing to my home, but I was just walking very gently, with my hand in my pocket and one hand holding my bag. I was just going to the office in the morning, but he was just running, just gasping like anything, and what’s wrong with you? “Ah, Teshome, you are relaxing here, people are waiting for you! The helicopter is just parking here, in the middle of——” Where? I said. “Here, in the middle of your village; go to that place where, where you take a taxi. That place there is a helicopter and there are people from all over Africa waiting for you.” Helicopter? I said. “Yes, now, don’t fight, don't argue with me, run, these people, they are waiting for you.” So, I said I’m sorry. When I was running, Doctor Hopkins came in my way again; when I saw Doctor Hopkins, I was just——I don’t know, like a dead person, you know, I was shocked when I saw him. Ah, Doctor Hopkins, how did you come to this place? This is, you know, my place of residence in Addis is not in the center of the town, it was just in the outskirts those days, because housing was very expensive, and I was a civil servant, and my salaries were very small. So, I was, you know——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1544.05425,1662.52345"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e In the suburbs? Sure, sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1662.52345,1663.56274"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e In the suburbs of Addis Ababa, yeah. That was the place so——I just wondered when I saw him in that village——you know, nobody——a foreigner like him, a US citizen, let alone a [inaudible] US citizen and others, you know, from the town, from the center of Addis, may not like to come there. “Ah well, we are looking for you Teshome,\" he said, \"Follow me now” he said. Okay, when I was following him, I said——when he just turned, he turned back to guide me to the helicopter, I was saying: wow, what’s this, what is this? And I was asking myself, and when I was looking down, and looking up again, he was not there. My lord! And now there was a crossroad again: which way did he turn I say? I chose simply the right turn and went to that place and there were two women, and have you seen one foreigner running this way? “No, we didn’t, we didn’t see. Oh Doctor——\" they say, they called us doctors because we are working in health, “Doctor, we have one question for you.” Please wait for me, I will come back to you later on. Now I have to rush, I said. And changed my——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1663.56274,1739.56231"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Direction?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1739.56231,1740.6552"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Direction, went there, and the helicopter was parking, landing there in the center of that village. And when I see inside the people from Nigeria, the Guinea worm fighters from Uganda, and everyone, Doctor Hopkins was there. “Teshome, we are coming and looking for you, to your village, to your house, and you are still relaxing and——.” Oh sorry, please, I did not know, I’m sorry, I apologize, I say, nobody told me exactly that you were looking for me. And then I joined them; the helicopter then started, we flew, but we didn't——I didn’t know the end point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1740.6552,1774.52184"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Is that right? Is that right? Wow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1774.52184,1776.78974"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e So, that——I didn’t understand that——the meaning of that dream and the next morning I was just thinking about it, and I was called. I was in a place called Assosa [Ethiopia], which is along the border with the Sudan, you know, doing Guinea worm case search. And my boss from the Ministry called me to give him his decision——my decision, to know, to give him, asking me whether I want to go to the college. There was a new college opened in a place called Jimma——Jimma University it’s called now. “Do you want to join the university or not?” he said. Wait, just give me some time, I’ll tell you later, tomorrow, I said. “Okay,” he said, \"Please now the deadline is very——approaching soon, so please let us know your thoughts.” Okay, I said and, later on, that dream came back to my mind. You know, I didn’t realize all those things, you know, it was just lost. [Claps hands]. But I said, wow, this is what God is telling me to do; the people are, Don Hopkins and the Guinea worm team, are——were coming to me, to collect me, so that I can join them and continue the trip. I said, so, I don’t want to go to the college, thank you very much, I said, and I continued working for Guinea worm. To this day, I’m there. That was in 199——4.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1776.78974,1864.58575"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e 1994?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1864.58575,1865.73517"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e 1994.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1865.73517,1867.22"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e That's the year that Elvin [Hilyer] and I first went to Africa; we went to Uganda.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1867.22,1871.756"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Exactly, that was 1994.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1871.756,1872.6402"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Is that right? Well——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1872.6402,1873.95121"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e You can imagine. And in 1995 I joined The Carter Center——the following year.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1873.95121,1882.89"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/195","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e That's——so those were the circumstances really? That dream had an enormous impact on your career.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1882.89,1889.378"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/196","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Exactly, absolutely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1889.378,1892.13"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/197","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e What was the Guinea worm situation in Ethiopia when you first became involved with Guinea Worm? Or when you first became involved with The Carter Center, I'm thinking about. What were the numbers? Did they have good statistics at that time? At that point?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1892.13,1908.002"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/198","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, before joining The Carter Center, I was the national program coordinator within the Ministry of Health for Guinea worm. That was how we got in touch with The Carter Center, in fact, with Don Hopkins and the others, Doctor Ernesto [Ruiz-Tiben]. The Guinea worm situation in Ethiopia was just unknown, I can say, when we were starting the program. When we first went, you know, when I was recruited to be the first national coordinator, we had big difficulty——myself, the Ministry, my supervisors, my big bosses those days, the department heads. It was very unclear for us where to start the work from. And then we went to the statistics division of the Ministry of Health where we had the reports coming from all regions, the monthly——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1908.002,1960.77685"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/199","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Health reports, generally health reports?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1960.77685,1962.63449"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/200","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, morbidity statistics, we call it. So, then we started analyzing the data, you know, for some ten years, you know, throughout the different regions. And Guinea worm was reported nearly from all regions of the country, in those days, according to that statistical report.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1962.63449,1980.82"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/201","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Even in the highlands?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1980.82,1982.252"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/202","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Even in the Highlands. Now, I’ll tell you the point; it was not because Guinea worm was all over the country, but, you know, there is what we call international disease codes, international code of disease, something like that, you know, where you have a list of those diseases like vector borne diseases, malaria, and so on, and so forth, and then comes Guinea worm, you know, Ascaris, hookworm, Guinea worm, all these kinds of worms are listed in that same column. And when people are making the tally, just by accident they are simply tallying the Guinea worm, you know, because Guinea worm and hookworm, and I think some worms, were in the same area, you know, the numbers are very close to each other. So, they just tallied, and usually those who do the compilations, the clinicians simply write sometimes the diagnosis——hookworm or ascariasis, and so on. But now the statisticians who are summarizing the data and so on, they use this international code of diseases; one, fourteen, 42.1, 42.2, 42.3; Guinea worm, hookworm disease, this, that——so, negligently they were simply, you know, writing Guinea worm when they wanted to write hookworm, or——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=1982.252,2065.842"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/203","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e So, it was completely unclear?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2065.842,2068.062"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/204","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Unclear. So——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2068.062,2068.30867"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/205","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e When you started?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2068.30867,2068.802"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, so, we had to make a case search——the case search, because it took, as a very big country, the case search took us about two years to complete, because we are just performing——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2068.802,2081.42"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/207","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e And you did this case search after you joined The Carter Center, or before?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2081.42,2084.892"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/208","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Before, when I was in the Ministry of Health. Carter Center didn't have an office in Addis those days.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2084.892,2091.004"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/209","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e So, you were——Ethiopia was concerned about Guinea worm, specifically?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2091.004,2096.47162"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/210","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, and Carter Center, Dr. Hopkins was pushing a lot. He was whenever he had a chance to meet the minister of health, in assemblies, maybe WHO Assembly, and that he was writing letters, and so on, for the creation of the program.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2096.47162,2108.81341"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e So, he was the impetus for Ethiopia becoming interested in Guinea worm?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2108.81341,2111.36364"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/212","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. Oh sure, exactly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2111.36364,2113.93278"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/213","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay, okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2113.93278,2114.24"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e And we did the case search, and at the end of the day, we only found two, I don’t know if you are coming to that question, but we only ended up in finding two endemic areas in the country. That was Gambella and South Omo——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2114.24,2126.45611"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Omo.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2126.45611,2128.47644"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/216","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e After searching all over the country, spending a lot of money, time, energy, and so on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2128.47644,2135.402"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/217","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e And what were the numbers? Cases at that time?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2135.402,2137.402"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/218","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e The numbers, the case, were about 1,200 those days.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2137.402,2141.942"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e About 1,200.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2141.942,2142.84"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/220","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2142.84,2142.85"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/221","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e And what is the number today?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2142.85,2145.57"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/222","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Today, we have about twenty-four cases reported last year, in 2009. And that, as I told you, as I presented yesterday, there were between 2006 and 2007, for about eighteen months in a row, we didn’t have any case. And transmission, we thought was interrupted and we were also given a certificate of recognition for interruption, interrupting transmission. But all of a sudden there was some kind of outbreak in one village in 19——2008, and then we went back to square one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2145.57,2188.51"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/223","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Why did that happen? What——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2188.51,2190.03"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/224","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, we say, those days there are two, two versions, or two thoughts, two different thoughts, two different explanations. One is, we believe there was some importation from Southern Sudan that caused this problem. This is one, one, one——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2190.03,2211.80616"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/225","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Explanation?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2211.80616,2213.02183"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/226","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e ——explanation. The other possible explanation was that, because in Gambella we had some civil strife in 2004 and [200]5. There was no access, including 2006, there was no access to the villages, when our surveillance was very incomplete. So, people were fighting among themselves, and there was some kind of ethnic clash. And there were some rebels also coming in from Sudan——Ethiopian rebels who were fighting against government. So, maybe they have come and contaminated the water source, which is again another possible cause of importation, I mean, possible cause of establishing endemic transmission. And the other possibilities is, there might have been, because of limited access to the villages, our surveillance might not have been complete. And that might have given rise to a missed case, you know, contaminating water sources. So, still to this day we are not sure what caused that resurgence of cases, but these are one of——these are the possible explanations.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2213.02183,2287.64"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/227","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e When do you think the last case——?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2287.64,2288.808"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/228","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e I personally believe there was some importation which might——from Southern Sudan; be it with the rebels or with the Ethiopians. Because Ethiopians also tend to go there and stay there; but they deny their travelling, because the government will ask, “Why did you go?” Because the rebel group is there, so they may have associated with the rebels, and so on. So, they tend to hide.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2288.808,2312.274"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/229","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e It's a sensitive, sensitive area?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2312.274,2312.978"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/230","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Sensitive, exactly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2312.978,2314.37438"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/231","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Sure, sure. Can't get the right stories.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2314.37438,2316.57404"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/232","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e So, the truth: nobody knows, God alone knows about it. But the truth now is that there was endemic transmission, because we had cases last year——the year before and also last year. So, now there is endemic transmission, we can't deny that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2316.57404,2335.32"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/233","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e When will the last case——?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2335.32,2337.752"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/234","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Sorry?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2337.752,2338.29244"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/235","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e When will the last case be there in Ethiopia? When will——you think?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2338.29244,2342.616"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/236","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e I hope and pray this is the last case; this year will be the last, the last year for an indigenous case in the country. We have, so far, detected three cases in 2010: one in February, two in March. Both of them, all three cases——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2342.616,2361.52585"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/237","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Contained, contained?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2361.52585,2362.6228"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/238","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e ——have been fully contained. We have strengthened our surveillance, containment, and whatever——and expanded the scope of——because we are reluctant. Before we thought we were finished with the job——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2362.6228,2373.29955"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/239","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Finished, sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2373.29955,2374.46045"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/240","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e But now, we knew that we are back to square one. So, we have to be as vigilant as possible. And we started the program, especially in 2010, as a new program, as a new——it’s not like a program that was old, or that has been working for the last eighteen years, but just a new, a new start in Gambella now. Especially in those——in that district where we had cases reported in a row for the last two years: 2008 and [200]9. 2008 we had forty-two cases, 2009, twenty-four, now, we started, so far, with three——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2374.46045,2412.18852"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/241","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e With three?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2412.18852,2413.33568"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/242","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e ——and we don't know how much we will end up, but what we believe is we will interrupt transmission, whatever——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2413.33568,2420.09108"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/243","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e This year, this year.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2420.09108,2421.24535"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/244","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e This year, yes, in 2010.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2421.24535,2423.69384"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/245","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Fantastic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2423.69384,2423.96589"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/246","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e God willing, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2423.96589,2424.51"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/247","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Congratulations.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2424.51,2425.00864"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/248","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2425.00864,2425.96159"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/249","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e A big congratulations, Teshome. How has the security situation been in Ethiopia? Actually, over the years you’ve worked in the Guinea Worm Program? I recall one story; you had a near death experience——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2425.96159,2440.67979"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/250","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2440.67979,2442.26648"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/251","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e In South Omo. Can you refresh my memory on that story?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2442.26648,2446.45"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/252","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, that was not due to security problem. We had other problems with, related to security, but the one near-death experience with, ordeal with my friend, Pat McConnon, was something related to road. You know, we were stuck in the mud, in the muddy road. It was dry when we were driving first. We had that small Mazda pickup——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2446.45,2473.60618"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/253","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Just the two of you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2473.60618,2475.78622"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/254","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e And Freo, our driver.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2475.78622,2477.67678"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/255","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e A driver? Okay, okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2477.67678,2478.70477"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/256","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, the driver was driving, two of us were just sitting, and chatting and so on. And in the middle of the day, the day, it was just raining.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2478.70477,2488.642"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/257","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e You were going down to South Omo?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2488.642,2490.074"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/258","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e South Omo, yeah, we were just very close, like, I don't——you would imagine, it was, if I'm not wrong, it was only twenty or thirty kilometers. After travelling, you know, from Addis all the way to that place about, say, 500 or 600——no, 600 something kilometers, when twenty or thirty kilometers, you know——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2490.074,2511.16044"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/259","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Out of Addis——to go?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2511.16044,2513.72657"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/260","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e When you are looking, you are like Moses, you know, Moses looking at Canaan, the Promised Land, to enter. He was denied, just like that, you know, he looked at it, but he couldn’t, he was——God did not allow him to enter; just in the Bible, you know, just like that. We're just looking at our place, at our destination, just like that. And——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2513.72657,2538.7086"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/261","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Because this is desert area, you can see a long distance?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2538.7086,2542.01603"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/262","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, yes, but it was also close, I mean it was only twenty or thirty kilometers, not much more than thirty kilometers from our destination. So, we were stuck in the mud and then we tried, we——the first thing was not the mud; the first thing was we missed the road, the direction. And——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2542.01603,2560.302"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/263","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e And it's easy to do in that area, isn't it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2560.302,2562.986"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/264","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes when, yes, when we are now searching our way to the, to the final destination we were stuck in the muddy place and then we're unable to go out and——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2562.986,2576.45"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/265","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e And just describing that, it is a desert area and it's——and, and the roads are, are not obvious many times, you really——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2576.45,2583.50067"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/266","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e There is no road! There is no road passage, you, you have to make your own road.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2583.50067,2587.26757"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/267","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Right, okay, okay. So, you——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2587.26757,2589.62038"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/268","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Literally, you can see no road. But you simply——when it's daytime, you see when the, the——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2589.62038,2596.314"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/269","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Tracks of another car?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2596.314,2597.49325"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/270","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e The tracks, yes, and you just follow that; that is the road, by definition. If you happen to miss that, for example, if it rains, and that is completely lost, then you are lost.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2597.49325,2597.91437"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/271","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Sure, sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2597.91437,2607.03526"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/272","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e There is no GPS [Global Positioning System], there is nothing that would guide us. In fact, it was after that incident that we bought a GPS machine. Anyway——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2607.03526,2615.858"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/273","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e No cellphones? No cellphones——before, sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2615.858,2616.522"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/274","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e It was——nothing; that was in 1997; ninety-six or ninety-seven? Ninety-seven, it was in ninety-seven. So, we had nothing, and we were stuck in the mud, and we tried to dig and dig and dig. We couldn't make it, and we spent the night there. And then the next day Pat [McConnon] said: “Let's try to walk and reach on foot. And then, if they have another vehicle they will come and, you know, pull us out from this. And let the driver stay with our things here, and you two of us, let's two of us walk.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2616.522,2657.426"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/275","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e And leave the driver with the car?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2657.426,2658.506"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/276","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e With the car.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2658.506,2659.01"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/277","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2659.01,2659.37"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/278","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e And then we can come back with——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2659.37,2661.506"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/279","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Where were you walking to? The village that you were going to in South Omo?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2661.506,2665.41"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/280","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, South Omo. Yes, the endemic area. It's called——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2665.41,2667.45"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/281","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Would they have cars there? Would they——did they have any vehicles there? They did? Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2667.45,2671.218"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/282","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, they have cars, they have——there is a mission station there, if you remember, you have been there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2671.218,2675.52"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/283","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2675.52,2676.344"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/284","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e SPCM it's called, Swedish Philadelphia Church Mission. So, they have agricultural projects, they have tractors, they have big trucks, and so on——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2676.344,2684.784"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/285","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e And you were trying to get to there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2684.784,2686.024"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/286","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, if we happened to successfully, to reach that point, we would have easily got that kind of assistance and rescued our friend also. But, as we were trying to walk to that place, we missed the direction. As I said, there was nothing, and I thought I was the expert, the guide, and I was telling Pat we go this way; this is the direction. Because whatever I see, you know, it was ——I thought it was just leading us to that place. And then, to your great surprise, or to our great surprise, we were going the opposite direction; just opposite, direct opposite. We were not going to the destination, but we were going farther away from it, perhaps to another location.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2686.024,2736.02"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/287","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e How did you know that? The sun or something? You realized you're going in the wrong——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2736.02,2739.572"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/288","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e That's what we discovered later on. I didn't know, in fact, had I known that I wouldn't have done it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2739.572,2744.31224"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/289","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Sure, sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2744.31224,2745.34648"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/290","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e So, at the end of the day, we find after traveling the whole day, and after having, you know——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2745.34648,2753.118"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/291","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e You're walking and you've got city shoes on?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2753.118,2755.08656"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/292","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, everything——we were completely exhausted. But, at the end of the day, after we were walking for about, I don't know, twelve hours or so, we ended up reaching to the other side, opposite side of where we are supposed to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2755.08656,2770.054"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/293","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e And there's nothing there? There are no people?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2770.054,2771.53184"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/294","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Nothing! But the only thing is we came up to the road, main road that we left the other day, early morning. That the road that we crossed, that was the road we left, but we came to this side of the road, I mean, the other side, so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2771.53184,2787.93"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/295","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e But you had no water? Did you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2787.93,2788.954"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/296","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e We finished our water; we tried to drink water from the, the——or what we found on the road, and so on; it was dirty, and so on. And at the end of the day, we arrived to that place, we spent the night there, there was nothing. Sleeping on the road——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2788.954,2810.04725"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/297","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e You and Pat, you and Pat, slept on the road?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2810.04725,2810.41489"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/298","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Myself and Pat, we slept on the road, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2810.41489,2813.356"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/299","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Now this is, this is warm weather, though?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2813.356,2815.076"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/300","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, yes, very warm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2815.076,2815.572"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/301","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay, okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2815.572,2816.076"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/302","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, yeah, there was nothing cold, nothing chilly. But the only, the only threat was animals; there could be lion, there could have been a hyena, or any kind of wild animal could have come and attacked us, easily. That was a nightmare, I mean, that was a serious——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2816.076,2834.88659"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/303","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e The fear?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2834.88659,2835.65815"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/304","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e The most serious threat to us. But thank God, we are protected; I was praying, and, in fact, I didn't pray that day, because I lost the energy; you know even for prayer you need energy. And you need also the faith, and my faith was gone. Everything, everything, just, you know——so, we spent the night just somewhere in the wilderness, our driver somewhere else. And then the next day, we were waiting for someone to rescue us because now——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2835.65815,2868.78851"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/305","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e You are on the main road?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2868.78851,2869.93148"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/306","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e We finished on our energy. We couldn't walk; my leg had some bruises and some blisters.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2869.93148,2875.99902"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/307","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Blisters?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2875.99902,2877.26641"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/308","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e And so on and I couldn't walk. Same——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2877.26641,2878.5164"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/309","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e And what about Pat? Same thing?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2878.5164,2879.92362"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/310","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e The same thing he had, but he was much better than I do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2879.92362,2882.19595"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/311","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Really?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2882.19595,2883.49414"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/312","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e He's better than me. Yeah, he, he has a good shoes, and his shoes——my shoes was not good and I think that was what caused me to really suffer. But he had some energy to walk; in that time, he was more huge and energetic than I was, I was very thin those days, very thin. But I was relatively——I should have been in a better position than him even but, fortunately, he was strong enough. He has some strength at least to, to further pursue walking. But I couldn't, I said, I can't, Pat, I'm sorry. And then we have——we are stuck there, my Lord time is against us, somebody is coming to fetch me from——at nine o'clock. So, we're stuck there and then we waiting for someone to come and rescue us, nobody came. And again, the whole day we have been there, and now in the afternoon, Freo, our driver, you know, suddenly came with somebody, you know——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2883.49414,2956.67"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/313","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e But you thought you were dying?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2956.67,2958.294"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/314","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, we were just about to die and ——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2958.294,2961.88"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/315","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Did Pat think he was dying?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2961.88,2963.768"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/316","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, one thing, one important thing is, yeah, we didn't drink, we were——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2963.768,2967.448"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/317","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Dehydrated?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2967.448,2969.176"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/318","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Dehydrated completely. And Pat, you know, he's very innovative, you know, I really appreciate him. And we had one empty bottle that we had water with and we had finished the water. And now he said he had some urine, and he passed his urine in the bottle, and he drank. “Teshome, please try this. This could save your life, now I'm okay” he said. I said, how can you do that? Okay, let me try, I said. I also had a bottle, so I tried, there was no urine coming out. But I——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2969.176,3001.866"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/319","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e You couldn't even pee, couldn't even pee?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3001.866,3002.85"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/320","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, I couldn't even pee. But I tried my best and then I had some drop, a little one, a little amount, and then tried to imitate him, you know, tried to drink. And when I did that, it was——it couldn't go down, rather it irritated me like anything, and provoked me to——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3002.85,3025.4437"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/321","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Regurgitate? Is that right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3025.4437,3026.7373"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/322","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Regurgitate, yes, vomit, yeah. And that was really another death, another nightmare. I finished my energy again.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3026.7373,3038.89"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/323","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, my God.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3038.89,3040.314"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/324","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e And then. \"Oh sorry,\" he [Pat] said, he was——he tried to encourage me and so on. Anyway, at the end of the day, he——after all those things, after all those trials, Freo and somebody, you know, they were trying to trace our footsteps and so on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3040.314,3061.634"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/325","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Because he had gotten the car repaired? Or something? Somebody had come along or——?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3061.634,3065.698"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/326","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes——no, he went, there were hunters around that area, so he went to the hunter's camp. They were about, I mean, about five kilometers away from where we were stuck. So, he went there and got some assistance, and they just pulled him out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3065.698,3081.044"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/327","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e So, then he's looking for you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3081.044,3082.484"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/328","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e They have their hunter's truck, you know, which was really, yeah, strong enough and that has a winch, and so on. So, they pulled him out. And then, when he was trying to go to our destination, he was——he and somebody else who was assisting him, looked our foot paths, so they said, \"These people must have been lost; they went the wrong way.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3082.484,3110.63658"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/329","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e The wrong way, is that right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3110.63658,3111.65145"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/330","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e So, they just followed that path, just following our footsteps. They came and caught us, yeah, they found us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3111.65145,3118.088"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/331","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e They found you and you really were saved, you were saved.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3118.088,3119.128"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/332","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, in fact, it was not easy for them to trace and find us out, because——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3119.128,3123.712"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/333","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e I remember he was frantic. He was——he told us, he was just frantic that you were lost.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3123.712,3128.55388"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/334","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, oh yeah, we were——he thought we were dead, because he went to both destinations; one to where we were supposed to go; two the other direction, and he couldn't find us. And he went to a place called Omorate [Ethiopia] which was the next possible destination for us. He asked if anybody there if they had seen us; nothing. And he started shouting, crying, crying, and you know, because they said they are lost, maybe hyenas or lions must have really just, you know, killed them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3128.55388,3162.24406"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/335","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e What a dramatic situation. And Freo, he, he's still there in Ethiopia, working with you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3162.24406,3167.11"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/336","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Working with me still.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3167.11,3168.74294"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/337","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Is that right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3168.74294,3170.32321"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/338","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, he enjoys working with me and he is now a logistic officer. He is not a driver; he is promoted, and he is an officer now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3170.32321,3177.67856"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/339","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh wonderful, Teshome, wonderful. Okay, briefly, drinking water in Ethiopia; how important has that been in the Guinea Worm Eradication Program? Has that played a big role? Clean water?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3177.67856,3190.918"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/340","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, yes, in fact, one of the most important interventions in Ethiopia, when we started the program was safe drinking water promotion. And UNICEF [United Nations International Children's Emergency Fund], UNICEF had really a lot of money allocated for this project, and I really should thank UNICEF for doing that. Unfortunately, some of the water sources that were built were taken away, were destroyed when the El Niño——El Niño, you know?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3190.918,3216.21967"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/341","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Sure, El Niño, sure, sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3216.21967,3218.13298"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/342","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, that happened, and it was completely——the river overflew, and then the pumps that were installed along the river banks, and so on. So, it was washed away, especially in South Omo. And in Gambella, it has played some role, but later on it was broken, and so on. You know, this——the problem with hand dug wells and boreholes, especially hand dug wells, is in those places the water table is really fluctuating very much; sometimes it would be higher so then it yields water, but at times the table goes down and dries up. And the pumps are easily broken, and then the community completely abandons that area, and they go to other places; they are semi-nomadic, so, they tend to leave the area, abandon that place and go to another place.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3218.13298,3273.272"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/343","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e But they were helpful for a period?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3273.272,3275.60981"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/344","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3275.60981,3276.652"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/345","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e To help with the breaking transmission?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3276.652,3277.952"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/346","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, definitely, it was very helpful in breaking transmission. As you know, in South Omo it has been now ten years or nine years, since we interrupted transmission. Nothing, no case since 2001.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3277.952,3289.93734"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/347","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e And so really clear——clean water was——?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3289.93734,3292.98926"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/348","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, it works. And also, the health education and also the case containment effort was really very, very effective. With these case containment centers, we, we——they were very effective in South Omo, of all the places. Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3292.98926,3307.66865"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/349","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Is that right? That was——and people cooperated with you there and they would stay there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3307.66865,3313.35662"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/350","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, yes, we were giving them——because those people are——they didn't have farms, they didn't have anything to lose by staying in the containment centers; rather they were gaining something. So——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3313.35662,3321.67831"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/351","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Food? They had food and——?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3321.67831,3324.47078"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/352","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Food and some incentives: clothing, [inaudible], and the bedsheets, blankets, and, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3324.47078,3328.116"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/353","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e So that was major, clean water and containment?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3328.116,3330.708"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/354","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Exactly, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3330.708,3332.532"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/355","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Interesting. Can you tell me about your colleagues from The Carter Center? A number of resident technical advisors [RTAs] did you have——technical advisors there in Ethiopia working with you? You had Pat McConnon?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3332.532,3348.332"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/356","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e From here? Pat McConnon was the first one, and later on Jason Weisfeld——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3348.332,3352.52812"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/357","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e McConnon first——Jason, okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3352.52812,3352.65"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/358","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Who helped us a great deal, in the South Omo program especially. And then we had some women, oh, I forgot their names, from, coming from CDC. There was some, Elizabeth Wolf was one——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3352.65,3370.20291"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/359","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Elizabeth?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3370.20291,3371.30551"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/360","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Wolf, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3371.30551,3372.73846"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/361","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Wolf, Wolf——I don't know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3372.73846,3373.16604"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/362","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e And——she was I think an EIS [Epidemic Intelligence Service] officer at that time. Rachel Barwick also later on, she was there for some time. And——I’ve forgotten; there were a lot of them coming.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3373.16604,3390.14"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/363","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Were there? Were they useful? And——in working with you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3390.14,3394.25543"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/364","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, to a limited extent, yes, they were useful. But of all people for us, for me, I recall Pat McConnon and——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3394.25543,3395.23611"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/365","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Jason?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3395.23611,3395.24611"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/366","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Jason Westbridge.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3395.24611,3397.42102"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/367","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Is that right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3397.42102,3403.91552"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/368","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, very important contributors. In fact, at some stage recently, Mark Eberhard was also there. Mark?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3403.91552,3412.83002"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/369","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh Mark?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3412.83002,3413.76378"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/370","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Mark Eberhardt is from CDC. He's still there, the head of Parasitic Diseases Division.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3413.76378,3418.99732"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/371","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh okay, Mark Eberhardt, okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3418.99732,3419.96721"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/372","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3419.96721,3421.42169"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/373","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Teshome, what was the toughest part of this job? Eradicating Guinea worm——what's the one toughest?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3421.42169,3427.54233"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/374","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e The toughest part of Guinea worm, as far as the Ethiopian program is concerned, we were dealing with people who have no idea of disease transmission and prevention, and so on. Completely ignorant people, and also people and an area which is completely marginalized and completely out of touch, where you don’t have any kind of infrastructure, no road access, nothing. And also, fortunately or unfortunately, those areas, both Gambella and South Omo, were having this kind of this insecurity and civil strife and fighting and so on. Ethnic, tribal, tribal fightings or ethnic clashes, and so on. So, I think I cannot say one single thing, but these three things——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3427.54233,3484.50137"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/375","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e That was major?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3484.50137,3485.68389"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/376","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, the remoteness of the area, insecurity, preventing security due to fighting amongst themselves, and, and, and, and——completely lack of knowledge and, I mean, ignorance. I mean, I don’t know, it could be too rough to say ignorance, but people had no idea about disease prevention and——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3485.68389,3515.27"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/377","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Sure, sure. Were you ever in danger down there? Could you have gotten into the conflict when they had ethnic fighting? Was that dangerous to you or to others trying to work in that area in Guinea worm?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3515.27,3525.59"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/378","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Fortunately, we were happy; we are safe. We have never had any bad incident because we used, because there were radio communications, and they tell us whenever there is some problem. They tell us not to come, they warn us and so on. And——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3525.59,3541.21"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/379","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e So, you stay away from the areas when there is fighting?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3541.21,3543.33362"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/380","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e We stay away, exactly. But our staff, field staff, working in those places, stationed in those places, you know, they had several problems. But never——nobody died, or nobody had life-threatening incident as such.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3543.33362,3560.446"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/381","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e I felt uncomfortable when we were down there together in South Omo, at one point, when we went down a road and they had put a log across the road. And when we——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3560.446,3569.0793"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/382","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Exactly, those things were common. We always, you know, encounter these kinds of incidents. And thank God, you know, for example at one time when we went there, there was a tribal clash between these Nyangatom people and Galeb or Hamer people. And there were, there was two people completely dead; they were shot dead, we saw them right on the way. We were shocked when we saw them, the dead bodies.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3569.0793,3595.178"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/383","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e They'd been shot with a gun?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3595.178,3596.37"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/384","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e They were shot with a gun, and they were just dead. And when we saw that, we couldn't go back. What can we do? We thought, we sensed that there is some kind of fighting because that was a fresh, a fresh dead body. Maybe somebody might have shot, might have shot him——them, and flew away, ran away. Or still there could be some fighting going on in front of us. What can we do? We say, we just prayed, God, please help us, protect us. Gave our lives to God and just proceed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3596.37,3631.908"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/385","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Continued on?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3631.908,3632.692"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/386","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e No, we went ahead.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3632.692,3634.38"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/387","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e You went on, continued on the way you were going?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3634.38,3636.772"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/388","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3636.772,3637.252"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/389","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e And did your work?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3637.252,3637.996"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/390","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, and luckily there was nothing. When we arrived there and told them that there were——we saw some dead bodies, they said, “Oh yes, there were some Morsi people and these Nyangotom are fighting.\" You know, there are a number of ethnic groups. In South Omo alone, there were more than twenty ethnic groups that, you know——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3637.996,3656.92892"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/391","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e But you're not any of those ethnic groups yourself?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3656.92892,3659.58"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/392","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3659.58,3659.964"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/393","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e So, you would not be a target?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3659.964,3663.09"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/394","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, we will not be a target. But if it so happens that we go in the middle of the fighting, we can be easily victimized, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3663.09,3674.07067"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/395","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Sure, sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3674.07067,3674.7837"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/396","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e One of the two sides might assume that we are there to support one of them and they might wrongly target us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3674.7837,3681.914"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/397","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e And you can't necessarily communicate with them, you don't necessarily know the language.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3681.914,3684.35124"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/398","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Exactly, no language, nothing to speak with them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3684.35124,3686.61"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/399","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e When we drove down that time, you know, when they had the log across the road, they all came out of the bushes. If you remember that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3686.61,3692.404"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/400","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3692.404,3692.828"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/401","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e And the driver backed up very quickly and turned around and left but——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3692.828,3696.772"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/402","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e That was a common incident.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3696.772,3698.61082"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/403","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Is that right, is that right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3698.61082,3699.78585"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/404","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e I can't count those things. Those are countless things, and confronting with this kind of fighters, rebels, and the lions also. I didn’t mention to you, when we spent the night in the car, well two lions were really coming and going around us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3699.78585,3717.01"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/405","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh my God and then the next night you're on the road with no car?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3717.01,3719.57717"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/406","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e With nothing——open. But again, you know, you can——what I can appreciate, through all this, is the protection of God. It's really——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3719.57717,3730.89"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/407","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Teshome, are there any questions that I have not asked you that you would like to talk about on the record? Is there anything I haven’t asked you about that you would like to add?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3730.89,3741.97"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/408","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I am telling you, there are several unsung heroes in this fight; unsung heroes, unknown people who have really fought a great deal. Maybe some of us are lucky enough to have, you know, the access, to have the opportunity to, you known, be known, to the world, I mean to international partners and so on, because of our position; the people like me. But honestly speaking, like, for example, people like Freo, who have really done a great deal. You know, there are a number of them who have really done a great job in achieving this success. We were just trying to guide, to lead, and so on, at our level. For myself, at my level, I was giving——I have hands on experience; I have been in the field teaching, training, and I mean, guiding everything, but still, I didn’t do it by myself. There were several others who have really done a great job. This is one thing I want to really, I want to thank all those really, especially, you know, a lifetime friend and fighter like Freo and Wata——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3741.97,3819.03"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/409","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e What is his full name, Freo?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3819.03,3820.254"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/410","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Freo Demeka, Freo Demeka. So——and also another colleague of mine, who is not usually very communicative but very shy and so on but really has done a great deal in the field; his name is [name with unknown spelling]. I should also thank him very much, because in the South Omo fight he was one of the, the real heroes who really did a great job in the field in those days. And of course there are others also; I may not be able to mention [all] their names——like Kiros, like Baletta, and so on. These are——many of them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3820.254,3861.504"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/411","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Many, many volunteers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3861.504,3862.352"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/412","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, volunteers and so on. And of course, I have mentioned earlier those consultants from The Carter Center, the two: Pat McConnon and——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3862.352,3875.95432"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/413","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Jason Westfield.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3875.95432,3876.8452"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/414","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e ——Jason Weisfeld. They deserve great appreciation, really, in our fight. The other thing perhaps I would like really to mention is that the Guinea worm battle was fought by the Guinea worm program staff only——mainly, mainly, I can say. It was a very difficult fight; for example, if I give the contrast with polio eradication, polio, starting from the head of state, everybody is really mobilized effectively in the country at large. I mean, the state machinery at large was fully, effectively mobilized. For Guinea worm, because it was a focal problem, it was a limited health problem in a limited or neglected area, nobody gave it attention. So, it was we, the people in the program, who really had to sweat a lot.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3876.8452,3941.432"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/415","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e In, in the Carter——in the Carter [Guinea Worm Eradication] Program or?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3941.432,3943.75998"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/416","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e In The Carter Center, yeah. It’s not like the polio eradication, it's not like the——even smallpox had great big attention. Even WHO itself later on, I’m not undermining the WHO's and UNICEF’s contribution, but globally when you see it’s not even the agenda, it’s not——maybe the Regional Office for Africa, WHO Africa Region might have given it serious thought. But even globally, it’s Carter Center who is really pushing too much; you know, who was trying——had it been not for President [James \"Jimmy\"] Carter I tell you this disease wouldn’t have been eradicated, because it was not top in the agenda. It was a really neglected disease from the start to the finish, purely neglected. Very few gave it attention and that made the fight very difficult for us. And we have to scream, and there was a joke in my country: \"What is this Guinea worm?\" said somebody, “Oh, Guinea worm is President Carter’s disease.” A disease, you know, a disease as if it was brought by President Carter from abroad to Ethiopia.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3943.75998,4018.574"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/417","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e And it's almost true; he brought attention——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=4018.574,4021.06662"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/418","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Attention to it, of course.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=4021.06662,4021.5692"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/419","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Attention to it, sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=4021.5692,4023.62133"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/420","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e So, it was a disease of President Carter. You know nothing about this, you know? It was so much undermined, so much neglected, truly neglected. Of course, there are neglected tropical diseases; nowadays there is a big division within WHO and other things, but Guinea worm is truly neglected. And we had to really fight, to sweat a lot. Thanks to President Carter——really, it is his disease, and he has——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=4023.62133,4052.43"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/421","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e He certainly brought attention to it. Don Hopkins brought it to his attention.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=4052.43,4056.504"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/422","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Exactly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=4056.504,4057.144"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/423","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Of course. it was Don Hopkins who brought——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=4057.144,4057.952"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/424","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. Don Hopkins and Ernesto [Ruiz-Tiben]. I mean, this kind of perseverance I have never seen, and I think that's what is inspiring the entire global community, I can say. These people are inspiration——by themselves.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=4057.952,4072.728"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/425","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e Sure. They're unsung heroes in the——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=4072.728,4074.808"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/426","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Exactly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=4074.808,4075.648"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/427","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e In The Carter Center also.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=4075.648,4076.584"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/428","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e In The Carter Center, I mean, I am telling you, they have done a marvelous job. And sometimes I really even blame myself when I see them, sometime——I, for me, I say: now I think I have done my best and why should I bother from now on, you know? I tend to give up and, you know——and then focus on something else. But these people, when I see them, I regret; I blame myself——oh, sorry, this is my country, my own problem, and I should have——I shouldn’t have given up. Why should I say so? Please God forgive me, now, I have to really revitalize my whatever——faith——","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=4076.584,4126.027"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/429","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHILYER:\u003c/strong\u003e You re-inspired. Teshome, thank you for taking time and sharing your story and your perspective, and for leaving a record for future generations.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=4126.027,4143.37"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/430","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eGEBRE:\u003c/strong\u003e Thank you very much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=4143.37,4144.25"}]},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/transcript/69019/annotation/431","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/069/019/original/transcript_1739213115.vtt20250210-2394798-e6sl7b.vtt20250210-2394798-e6sl7b?1739213116","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/069/019/original/transcript_1739213115.vtt20250210-2394798-e6sl7b.vtt20250210-2394798-e6sl7b?1739213116"}]},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/index/88186","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Gebre Kano, Teshome Index [Index]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/index/88186/annotation/432","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Introduction","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2.0,72.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/index/88186/annotation/433","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The interviewer introduces Teshome Gebre Kano, The Carter Center (TCC) representative in Ethiopia.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Synopsis"]}}],"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2.0,72.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/index/88186/annotation/434","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is an interview with Teshome Gebre, Carter Center representative in Ethiopia, about his life and his activities with the Guinea Worm [Eradication] Program.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Partial Transcript"]}}],"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2.0,72.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/index/88186/annotation/435","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Background","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=72.0,645.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/index/88186/annotation/436","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Teshome Gabre Kano describes his family background, childhood in Ethiopia, and the impact of religion on his life. 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Teshome, you were born in Ethiopia?","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Partial Transcript"]}}],"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=72.0,645.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/index/88186/annotation/438","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Conclusion","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3730.0,4145.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/index/88186/annotation/439","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Teshome Gebre Kano concludes the interview by thanking his colleagues, volunteers, and The Carter Center (TCC) for their work towards eradicating Guinea worm disease.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Synopsis"]}}],"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3730.0,4145.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/index/88186/annotation/440","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Teshome, are there any questions that I have not asked you that you would like to talk about on the record? Is there anything I haven’t asked you about that you would like to add?","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Partial Transcript"]}}],"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3730.0,4145.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/index/88186/annotation/441","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Personal Story ","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2425.0,3190.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/index/88186/annotation/442","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Teshome Gebre Kano describes his experience of a dangerous situation where he, a colleague, and their driver became stranded and spent time lost between destinations in a rural area of Ethiopia.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Synopsis"]}}],"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=2425.0,3190.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/index/88186/annotation/443","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"A big congratulations, Teshome. How has the security situation been in Ethiopia? Actually, over the years you’ve worked in the Guinea Worm Program? 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Okay, briefly, drinking water in Ethiopia; how important has that been in the Guinea Worm Eradication Program? Has that played a big role? Clean water?","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Partial Transcript"]}}],"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3177.0,3332.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/index/88186/annotation/447","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The Carter Center (TCC)","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3332.0,3421.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/index/88186/annotation/448","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Teshome Gebre Kano discusses his colleagues at The Carter Center and their involvement in the Guinea Worm Eradication Program in Ethiopia.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Synopsis"]}}],"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3332.0,3421.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/index/88186/annotation/449","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":" Interesting. Can you tell me about your colleagues from The Carter Center? A number of resident technical advisors [RTAs] did you have——technical advisors there in Ethiopia working with you? You had Pat McConnon?","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Partial Transcript"]}}],"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3332.0,3421.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/index/88186/annotation/450","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Challenges","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3421.0,3730.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/index/88186/annotation/451","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Teshome Gebre Kano describes some of the challenges to eradicating Guinea worm disease in Ethiopia, including infrastructure, conflict, and health education.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Synopsis"]}}],"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501#t=3421.0,3730.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2845/collection_resources/132720/file/247501/index/88186/annotation/452","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Teshome, what was the toughest part of this job? 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