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I’m in Atlanta, Georgia,\nat the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in the Stephen B. Thacker\nLibrary, and I’m here with Subomi Adeyemo. We’ve had one pre-interview and a\nZoom call that went awry.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=0.0,19.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Subomi, thanks for being here with me today. Do I have your permission to\ninterview you and record this session?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=19.0,26.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=26.0,27.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: For the record, can I ask you to say, “My name is,” and tell me what your\ncurrent position is at CDC [Centers for Disease Control and Prevention]?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=27.0,37.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Yes. My name is AdeSubomi Adeyemo, I go by Subomi. I’m an Epidemic\nIntelligence Service Officer, with the Division of Parasitic Diseases and Malaria.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=37.0,45.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Okay. Before we delve into the details of your path at CDC, can you tell me a\nlittle bit about your family back in the community you grew up in?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=45.0,55.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Yes. I was born in Ibadan, Nigeria, in 1989 to Adewale and Omishola\nAdeyemo. My ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=55.0,60.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\npaternal grandfather, the late [Alayeluwa Oba] Emmanuel Adegboyega Adeyemo was\nthe thirty-eighth king of Ibadan, Nigeria, which makes me a princess. With that,\nit definitely comes with a lot of beautiful history. My grandfather was a\ntraining officer in the British Army in Kaduna during World War II. His military\nexperience includes serving in East Africa, Burma [Myanmar], India, Somalia, and\nMalta. He had several great positions throughout his career, including the\nCommissioner of local government affairs, and of course the greatest title, the\nking of Ibadan, Nigeria.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=60.0,95.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Wow. Your parents, how did you end up here in the United States?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=95.0,101.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: My parents are truly amazing people. My father, he actually schooled in\nthe US, and my mother, she schooled in Nigeria. My father is an engineer by\ntraining, and my mother a pharmacist. Eventually they decided to come, to move\nto the United States. Since then, it’s ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=101.0,120.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nbeen great. I’ve definitely had the best of both cultures. Even though I grew up\nin the United States, I went to Nigeria a lot as a child. My grandparents would\ncome visit, so I can still speak my language, which is Yoruba, and I learned how\nto read and write it while I was enrolled in school at the University of\nGeorgia, there was Yoruba class there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=120.0,138.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: At the University of Georgia?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=138.0,140.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: At the University of Georgia.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=140.0,142.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: That’s pretty cool.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=142.0,143.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=143.0,144.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Your academic background is mainly the University of Georgia in Athens, Georgia?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=144.0,147.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Yes. I’m a triple dog— I have a biology degree from there, Doctor of\nPharmacy degree from there, and also a Masters in Public Health [MPH] in\nEpidemiology. I spent nine years straight, so they have all my money.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=147.0,158.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Oh, my gosh! Did your mother or your father sort of guide you toward pharmacy?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=158.0,162.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Just growing up, the fact that my mom was a pharmacist prior to moving\nto the US, in Nigeria. She owned two pharmacy stores there. When we moved to the\nUS as well, I just used to admire how all of her friends and family members\nwould just call her whenever they weren’t feeling good, and say, “Hey, I have X,\nY and Z symptoms, what should I take?” ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=162.0,181.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nThe fact that she was able to help them, that really inspired me to just go into\npharmacy and going into healthcare in general, where I can just be that resource\nfor people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=181.0,192.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Yes. Did your father have any say in the matter?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=192.0,196.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: He was happy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=196.0,197.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Yes?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=197.0,198.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Yes, he always knew that I liked healthcare, so when I decided to do\npharmacy, he wasn’t surprised.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=198.0,204.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Okay. What made you become—get your masters in epidemiology?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=204.0,207.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Pharmacy really just focuses on patient-centered care. While I was at\nthe University of Georgia, I developed a love for population health, and they\nhappened to be offering a dual Master of Public Health/Doctor of Pharmacy\nprogram, so I decided to enroll in the public health program, focused on\nepidemiology, just so I could gain those skills in order to be able to be a\nresource when it comes to public health. I was actually the first individual to\ngraduate from the University of Georgia’s dual Doctor of Pharmacy/Master of\nPublic Health program.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=207.0,239.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Wow. Okay. From that ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=239.0,241.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nprogram, you had a CDC internship in the middle of your MPH? Is that right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=241.0,246.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Yes, I did. I finished the Doctor of Pharmacy in 2015, but I still had\none year of the Master of Public Health program. During this time, I worked\nfull-time as a pharmacist in the community setting. I took classes full-time at\nthe University of Georgia, and I also did two internships, which one was at CDC.\nI got to work on just analyzing data when it came to media response, CDC’s\nsocial media outlet, so I did @DrKhoury just to make sure that CDC messages were\nreaching the target audience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=246.0,278.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Then there was another one at Morgan County?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=278.0,281.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Yes, so in Morgan County Health Department [University of Georgia\nMorgan County Cooperative Extension], I got to work on a teen-based project,\nwhich basically looked at risky behaviors of high school students. A goal was\nset just to raise awareness about what risky behaviors can lead to, and just\nkind of educate the children.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=281.0,300.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Both ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=300.0,301.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nof those are kind of based around communication.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=301.0,304.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=304.0,305.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: It’s a little different than pharmacy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=305.0,307.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Exactly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=307.0,308.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Where is it, because as a pharmacist, you’re guiding people to know about\nwhat they’re taking.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=308.0,313.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Yes. It is definitely related. In pharmacy, communication is definitely\nneeded, people skills are needed because we’re more accessible than the\nphysicians, versus with the physicians, you have to make an appointment. With\nthe pharmacy, you just show up there. You can show us whatever is going on with\nyou, whether it’s a rash, or tell us about a headache, like, we’re there to help\nyou out. Definitely the communication skills are there. The public health aspect\njust allowed me to use communication in a different manner when it comes to\ntailoring my communication to a specific audience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=313.0,344.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Okay. In 2017, there was a program called PMF, which is the Presidential\nManagement Fellowship. How did you find out about this program and become part\nof it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=344.0,353.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: After finishing the Masters of Public Health program in 2016, I\ncontinued to work at Walmart [pharmacy] for an additional year and a half. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=353.0,361.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nDuring that time, I just really wanted to find a way to get involved in public health.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=361.0,367.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Were you working at Walmart full-time?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=367.0,370.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Full-time, yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=370.0,371.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Also doing these internships and—okay, okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=371.0,374.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Exactly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=374.0,375.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: A lot of time on your hands.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=375.0,378.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Something like that. I started looking at different ways to get\ninvolved in public health and just researching different fellowship\nopportunities, and I came across the Presidential Management Fellows program.\nWhat was really great about this program is, that is the leadership training\nprogram that focuses on the executive qualifications of leading change, leading\npeople, being results-driven, building coalitions—and I believe I’m forgetting\none more. It just aligned with my goal to get into public health and to be able\nto impact population health. Just the fact that a two-year training program\nallows you to be at an agency such as CDC—and there are positions elsewhere, FDA\n[Food and Drug Administration], just different federal agencies—was really\nattractive to me. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=378.0,422.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI was really fortunate that a CDC pharmacist, Jennifer Lind, which I met through\none of my friends, Raybun [Spelts], would also just tell me about her career at\nCDC, and that just really inspired me to just apply to this fellowship, see what\nhappens. Luckily for me, it worked out. I got with the Division of Global HIV\n[Human Immunodeficiency Viruses] and TB [Tuberculosis] at CDC, working on the\nPresident’s Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief Program.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=422.0,446.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Which is called PEPFAR.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=446.0,448.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: PEPFAR, yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=448.0,449.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Is it pretty competitive to get into that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=449.0,452.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: It is. In my application cycle of 2017, they had over six thousand\napplicants. Out of those six thousand applicants, only four hundred and\nthirty-eight became finalists. Once you’re a finalist, now you have access to\napply to any federal agency you want to, whether it’s the FDA or the FBI\n[Federal Bureau of Investigations].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=452.0,470.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Wow. Okay, so you’re in this fellowship program, and you’re here at CDC, and\nthis is during what year? It’s a two-year program, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=470.0,478.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Yes, so—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=478.0,479.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: It’s from 2000—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=479.0,480.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Yes, 2017 to 2019. After that you’re guaranteed ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=480.0,483.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\na permanent position, for the most part. I was able to stay on with the Division\nof Global HIV and TB.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=483.0,490.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Okay, so how does—you’re also a Commissioned Corp officer?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=490.0,493.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: I didn’t start Commissioned Corp until I started EIS, the Epidemic\nIntelligence Service.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=493.0,498.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: We’ll get to EIS in a moment because you’re the class of 2021?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=498.0,503.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=503.0,504.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: We’re missing a couple of years here, where kind of a lot of things happened.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=504.0,509.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=509.0,510.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Right around the time that you’re in your fellowship, we started hearing\nrumors about the SARS CoV-2. What do you remember about hearing about it first?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=510.0,519.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Hearing about it first, it was a lot of unknowns. That’s the best way\nto describe it, and a lot of uncertainty. Right around the time we started\nhearing about COVID, I was still trying to plan a girls’ trip to Italy that we\ngo on every year with two of my pharmacy school buddies. That was around the\ntime when Italy was having so many deaths. There was uncertainty, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=519.0,543.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\neven when it came to the guidance around how COVID-19 is transmitted, and the\nmask guidance there was uncertainty as well. There was uncertainty as to how we\nwere going to still carry out our HIV and TB programs overseas in countries,\nbecause of this pandemic that was starting to unfold.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=543.0,558.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: When you first heard about it, did you feel like, oh my gosh, this is a\npandemic, or did you think, oh, this is going to be another, like, SARS and\nit’ll be pretty much nipped in the bud and be okay? Not that I’m trying to guide\nyou in your answer, but—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=558.0,574.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Yes. Honestly, I felt that it was something that was going to be nipped\nin the bud. I definitely didn’t expect the devastation when it came to the loss\nof lives. That was very heavy and just challenging to just watch the news every\nmorning, you’d just see the death toll continue to rise and rise. I think that\nwas, like, the huge kind of shock of the whole pandemic— like how many lives\nwere lost, people that survived, cancer and survived fighting in the military\nonly to lose their lives to COVID-19 as well, and just the fact that the healthcare ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=574.0,604.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\ninfrastructure was just overthrown, basically, or exhausted.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=604.0,606.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the US, that was kind of surprising, just to see that we got to this point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=606.0,611.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Yes. Where, exactly, were you physically? Were you here in Atlanta?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=611.0,615.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Yes. I was here in Atlanta, still working for the President’s Emergency\nPlans for AIDS Relief. Then with that, too, our programs overseas have to pivot,\nbecause usually a lot of things are done on-the-ground, get to see partners.\nBecause of that, we transitioned to doing thing online and just kind of making\nthe best of it. At the end of the day, you still wanted to reach your HIV\ntargets when it came to getting people on treatment, getting them virally\nsuppressed, but we just definitely had to pivot because of the pandemic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=615.0,644.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: You went to all online—like CDC shut down March 13th, maybe the 17th, around\nthere—that was the week when we were told to all go home. You had to go home as well?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=644.0,654.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: I had to go home then as well, but I thought we were coming back.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=654.0,659.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Everybody did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=659.0,660.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: I definitely didn’t expect it to be a two-year work from home, but all ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=660.0,665.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nthe amazing colleagues— they made it work. Like, working from home for two\nyears, we were definitely effective. It was unexpected.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=665.0,672.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: It was unexpected, yes. It was quite a lot of people all of a sudden going\nhome and working. Did you have any—did you plan for it? Did you have enough time\nto pack? Did you—was it—did you have any notice that you were going to do this\nfor two years?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=672.0,689.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: No notice at all. I think what did help is, prior to the pandemic, I\nwas already teleworking two days a week, so I did have everything that I needed\nto work from home kind of there. Did I have to come back to the office to get\nanything? Eventually, I did, maybe just to pick up some notes, or a novel that I\nwas reading. Other than that, I had everything that I needed at home. The fact\nthat we were able to still communicate with our colleagues over Zoom and by\nvideo, that definitely did help, but it was an adjustment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=689.0,723.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Do you think ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=723.0,724.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nworking as a team, because you were on a team, did that help or hinder your team\nto work apart, but still together virtually?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=724.0,732.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Honestly, I think it depends on an individual. For me, it definitely\nhelped me, just because I’m able to get more work done at home. At the office, I\nlove my colleagues and there’s always that tendency to kind of take a break and\ncatch up, which is really good. When I’m at home, it’s just work, work, work. I\nneed to have better balance about taking breaks and working at home. Yes, in the\noffice, there was more of that balance of working, taking a break, talking to\nyour colleagues. At home it’s just straight working, which works for me. For\neverybody, that balance might not be the best.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=732.0,768.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: What did you do for your work? I mean, there was kind of a gray area of,\nusually a nine to five job and you’re done and you go home, here you’re in your\noffice at home, there’s no definite time when you can say, I’m done working. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=768.0,784.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nDid that impact your life? Did you just keep working? It sounds like you did\nkeep working and didn’t really stop working. A lot of people just went, it’s\nfive, I’m done.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=784.0,794.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: I definitely kept working. That’s something that I’m working on because\nI know it’s good to have that work-life balance. For me, just to be completely\nhonest, it’s still in progress. I definitely do work longer hours just because I\nfeel like—just like a lot of my colleagues here, we’re just so committed to the\nmission of CDC, and there’s always something to do. I’m just one of those people\nthat if I’m online before I know it, five hours have passed. I am going to work\non that because I know it’s good to have that balance.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=794.0,824.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Yes. How was COVID-19 discussed in your department? How did you guys go from\nworking on PEPFAR, and then, oh, I’ve got to do this, and you still have to\nmanage PEPFAR. You’re doing two things at once now?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=824.0,836.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Exactly. The pandemic caused the way of life for everybody to change,\nand programs for everybody to change. One of the things about the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=836.0,844.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nHIV program that I truly do admire is that they had already systems and\ndashboards in place that we used to monitor HIV and TB targets and commodities.\nIn Uganda, for example, there was a system that was used to monitor the number\nof HIV medications that each facility has on a national level and a regional\nlevel, where they were able to pivot and use the system that they had for HIV to\nnow monitor the amount of test kits that are in the country. Just one example\nfrom a country of how something that was used for a different program was able\nto be utilized for COVID-19.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=844.0,886.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: I see, okay. This is off the COVID track, but is that also being used for\nmonkeypox [mpox]?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=886.0,893.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: I am not sure about that at the moment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=893.0,897.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Okay. You had changes in your workflow. Did things happen faster? Or did they\njust kind of—because ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=897.0,904.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nthe virus is changing so quickly and rapidly, and our guidance is changing\nquickly and rapidly with the virus, which is somewhat confusing to people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=904.0,913.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"How did you guys react to the communications that were coming in and out of CDC?\nAlso, the federal government had a part in that to play, how they communicated\nto the world and the United States.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=913.0,926.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Exactly. There is always room for improvement, and I feel like during\nthe pandemic, there were a lot of areas that as an agency we could have been\nbetter when it came to communication, and just being transparent as to what was\ngoing on with the pandemic, and how that would affect the way that we do work. I\nguess on the flipside of that, we were all learning together as a nation,\nglobally about this pandemic and about the virus. Even though, yes, there were\ndefinitely areas for improvement when it came to communication and transparency\nas the information came in, I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=926.0,964.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\ndo understand that we were all learning together. I necessarily might have not\nbeen able to have information as quickly as I would have wanted, but I\ndefinitely think that is one of the areas that the agency, as a whole, is\nworking on as far as improving communication, getting communication out there\nquicker, versus having to go through so many clearances before it actually\nreaches the people that need it to do their work.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=964.0,987.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Yes. Testing was a big thing early on, because it was a way to know where the\nvirus was. Did you have—you worked in testing, or you actually performed tests,\ndid you not?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=987.0,998.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: I still maintained my part-time involvement working in the community\npharmacy setting, and through that, the pharmacies eventually did have\ndrive-through testing for individuals to come in. With that, it took a while to\nkind of get it streamlined, but once it was streamlined and people booked\nappointments for it, it did flow. There was a period where you would have to\nwait days to get your test results, or you wait to get an appointment. That\ndefinitely affected how the pandemic ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=998.0,1024.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nkind of played out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1024.0,1025.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Since you were one of the testers and I never talked to anyone who actually\ndid the testing, how did you learn to do the testing, and tell me your\nexperience about doing that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1025.0,1035.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: From the pharmacist’s aspect, we actually did the nasopharyngeal swabs,\nand we didn’t actually do it for the patients, the patients would do it in front\nof us. We basically walked them through the technique of how to do it, because\nof course, we wanted to protect ourselves as well. We’d walk them through the\ntechnique of how to swab their sample, and then we’ll send it off to the lab for testing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1035.0,1056.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Yes. Is that difficult to tell people, you know, a little bit further up, a\nlittle to the left? Was it—how was that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1056.0,1063.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: It was overall—I don’t think it was difficult, it was just an\nadjustment. At that time, people were just—really wanted their test results, so\nthey were willing to be patient and just kind of follow instructions, so they\ncould get a good sample to get a test result.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1063.0,1077.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: These were all people that were willing to be tested?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1077.0,1080.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Exactly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1080.0,1081.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Yes. There’s a whole other part of the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1081.0,1084.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\npeople that were just unwilling to be tested.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1084.0,1087.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Exactly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1087.0,1088.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: That sort of impacted—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1088.0,1090.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Yes, it definitely did. One thing, as a pharmacist, when it came to\ntesting, and even the vaccine later on, my role is just to always give people\nthe data, give people the information about testing and about the vaccine, about\nthe virus itself. I never argued with people, because you’ll always have\nsomebody that feels like they know necessarily more or think that the government\nis trying to deceive them. I would never argue with anybody. I’ll just give them\nthe facts and say, hey, these are the facts. It’s up to you to make an informed\ndecision as to whether you want to be tested or whether you want to get the vaccine.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1090.0,1126.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Yes. Is it the same thing when the vaccine rolled out? You were vaccinating\npeople as well? Did you vaccinate yourself?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1126.0,1133.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: No. We’re not allowed to vaccinate ourselves.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1133.0,1136.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Okay, I was wondering.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1136.0,1138.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Yes, definitely did give out a lot of vaccines for the pandemic. It was\ngreat to see people come in and get vaccinated. Eventually, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1138.0,1146.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nyou got to a point where all the people that wanted to be vaccinated were\nvaccinated, so then it was an issue of doses were being wasted because people\ndidn’t want to get vaccinated, which is kind of sad. But at the end of the day,\nyou can’t force—it wasn’t mandatory for people to get vaccinated.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1146.0,1162.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: As a pharmacist, was it hard for you to throw away vaccines?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1162.0,1166.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: It was. It was. Especially at the beginning, when you had people just\nwaiting days and trying to get appointments, it was so difficult to get a\nvaccine. Then later on, when there was still a large portion of the US\npopulation that wasn’t vaccinated, but yet they weren’t coming to the pharmacy\nor going to other healthcare centers to be vaccinated. Sometimes when I would\nhave to open a vial that’s usually supposed to be for ten people, and I only\ngive one dose and I had to waste nine—it hurt every time, especially when you\nknew that other countries didn’t necessarily have access to the vaccine supply\nthat we had in the US.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1166.0,1200.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Did you ever think, maybe if I do this or do that, I could save it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1200.0,1205.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: That ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1205.0,1206.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\ndefinitely was a strategy that was taught. We tried to just do appointments on\ncertain days, like, instead of having it available every day, we’ll try to\nschedule ten people, or thirty people for one day. Then with that, again, some\npeople wouldn’t show up. Of course, if two people are there for a vaccine, you\ndon’t want to turn those two people away, because they might have taken a while\nfor them to actually get to the stage to have the confidence to come in and get\nthe vaccine. I definitely did understand the decision that was made that, hey,\nif it’s only one person that wants to get vaccinated that day, open the vial,\ngive them that shot because, at the end of the day, it’s a confidence for them\nto come to the pharmacy. You don’t want them to get discouraged to say, oh, I\ntried to get it, but they didn’t give it to me. I definitely understand that perspective.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1206.0,1252.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Okay. This is kind of your side job from CDC.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1252.0,1255.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Or part-time job, yes. Approved outside activity, yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1255.0,1258.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: I love that. Also, you were, in April-May of 2020, you got deployed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1258.0,1262.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: I did. I think overall I did five COVID deployments. My first one was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1262.0,1266.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nwith the Connecticut Department of Health, and I was actually working on\ninfection prevention control in long-term care facilities. One of the reasons\nthat this one was really dear to my heart is that the elderly population was\nvery vulnerable during the early part of the pandemic, the death toll was\nsignificantly high. Basically, it was to go into the long-term care facilities\nand talk to the health providers and really teach them how to manage their\npersonal protective equipment, how to keep their patients safe—how to keep\nthemselves safe. Because there was a shortage of healthcare workers as well,\nsometimes you go into a healthcare facility, and you’ll see one person doing the\njob of three or four people just because So-and-So is out with COVID— they might\nhave maybe five or ten employees out with COVID at a time. Just understanding\nthat they would never do anything intentionally to bring COVID into their\nfacility, but at the end of the day, you know, they ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1266.0,1326.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nhad their families that they went home to afterwards as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1326.0,1329.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It was really hard to know when somebody contracted COVID, or was it from the\ngrocery store? Was it from when I went X, Y and Z. It was a lot of uncertainty\nthere, but the goal at CDC was definitely to share the information that we had.\nThen the challenging thing was that I would have gone to the health facility—\nshare the CDC guidelines, the guidelines could change the next day, or it could\nchange while I’m out in the field. I would always stress to them that, hey,\nthese are the CDC guidelines, just keep in mind that this may change. Always\nrefer back to the CDC website. Even though we say that X, Y and Z is what you\nshould do today, if data comes out to say something else is better, we’re doing\na better job of getting that information to you guys.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1329.0,1373.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Right because this is a novel virus—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1373.0,1375.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Exactly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1375.0,1376.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: —it changes, it mutates.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1376.0,1377.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Exactly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1377.0,1378.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: It mutated a lot. Still mutating.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1378.0,1380.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1380.0,1381.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: What were some of the other—was there any experiences that stick with you in\nyour deployments?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1381.0,1386.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1386.0,1387.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nguess another deployment that I did was at Grady Memorial Hospital here in\nAtlanta, Georgia, and during that time we were actually testing the\nself-collected nasal swab against one collected by a healthcare provider.\nThrough that, I think I dealt with about ninety-eight different patients at the\nhealthcare facility, just walking them through how to collect their own\nspecimens. Then we tested that against ones that were collected by the\nhealthcare provider just to see if it was sensitive enough as well. Just through\nthat, I interacted with a lot of different people in the metro Atlanta area,\ncoming from different economic backgrounds, and just really hearing their views\nof the pandemic. Some people would say, hey, I lost four or five family members\nbecause of the pandemic—it was hard to hear. It definitely made me just thank\nGod that personally, for me, I didn’t lose anybody close to me during the\npandemic. I do feel for the families that lost four or even one ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1387.0,1447.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nfamily member because of this pandemic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1447.0,1450.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Yes. Do you think it was because many people couldn’t quarantine or separate\nthemselves? There’s a lot of people that live in multigenerational housing, and\nthey’re not able to stay six feet away from each other.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1450.0,1468.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: There’s several factors. I think that definitely played a role when you\ncan’t really have your bubble. Luckily for me, with my family, I was able to\nkind of have a bubble, and people stayed in that. Even though I have my bubble,\nI was still working at hospital— interacting with patients.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1468.0,1494.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: People who are of economic standing, you were saying, seemed to have\ncontracted it more, because they were in multigenerational housing—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1494.0,1505.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Yes, got you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1505.0,1507.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: —or ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1507.0,1508.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\ntheir jobs that were ones that they had to be out in the public.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1508.0,1512.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: I think that’s the thing about COVID-19, there were several factors.\nDefinitely, there were some people that worked in the service sector, still went\nto work during the pandemic— couldn’t work from home. But then there was really\nno way to tell where people were getting COVID from, so even at some point they\nwere saying, okay, when you go to the gas station, make sure if you touch this\nservice—when you go grocery shopping, there was a point where everybody was\nwiping all of their groceries down. There was really no way to tell for sure, if\nsomebody contracted COVID, you can’t say for sure it was from this event,\nbecause then you had people that stayed at home all the time, too, and somehow\nCOVID was brought in—to them. Yes, it was very challenging. For the people that\ndidn’t have the luxury of having that bubble, they were definitely more at risk\nduring that time, because they didn’t have that bubble of protection. It wasn’t\nguaranteed that just because you had that bubble, that— you wouldn’t get COVID-19.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1512.0,1566.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Right. Right, because we ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1566.0,1568.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\ndidn’t really know where it was at the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1568.0,1571.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1571.0,1572.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: It just seems like there was only, like, six months where you really didn’t\nhave a handle on exactly where it was coming from. Within those six months, we\nhad a vaccine, as well. By the time COVID-19, which was really January 2020, we\nstarted it there, then by December 2020, we had a vaccine which is incredible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1572.0,1592.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: It’s incredible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1592.0,1593.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Just as a pharmacist, can you talk about the vaccine itself and how amazing\nthat technology—okay, well, talk about the technology of that vaccine.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1593.0,1601.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: I would definitely say that one of the great things about the vaccine—\nthe manner in which the FDA—one thing I wanted to definitely say is there were\nno steps skipped in making the vaccine.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1601.0,1613.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There was just a lot of steps that were done simultaneously, at the same time,\nso the vaccine could come out. I think that was one of the common misconceptions\nabout why people weren’t getting the vaccines. They’re, like, oh, this came out\ntoo quickly, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1613.0,1628.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nthey skipped steps—no. There weren’t any steps skipped. There were multiple\nsteps done simultaneously. One thing that I had to say about people that had a\nlot of vaccine hesitancy is that a lot of people, when COVID happened, they\nprayed for a miracle. Then the miracle came, which is the vaccine. You still had\na lot of people that were reluctant to get it. My discussion with them was,\nlike, hey guys, you prayed for something to happen that would help stop this\nmassive death toll that we’re seeing every day. This is something that’s\navailable. You should really get it, just to save your life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1628.0,1664.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes, that was definitely a discussion that I had even with family members that\nwere reluctant to get it. Some of them say, like, oh, I’ll get it in a year,\nafter it’s been out for a year, and a year and a half. I was, like, there is no\nguarantee that you’ll have a year, a year, and a half. God forbid, anything can\nhappen. There were people that regretted waiting ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1664.0,1688.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nto get the vaccine. It wasn’t until they got COVID and they ended up in the ICU\n[intensive care unit]. They were, like, oh wow, this is so serious, if I knew\nthat it would impact me like this, I would have got the vaccine. Then again,\nthere’s no convincing some people, and social media definitely did play a role\nin it. There were a lot of people that used social media to spread\nmisinformation. Just because somebody says something confidently, people believe\nthem. That happened a lot, even though they don’t know what they’re saying. That\nwas definitely something that was going on during the pandemic as well, when the\nvaccine was going out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1688.0,1726.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As a healthcare provider and just somebody working in public health, it was\nshocking, or I guess a word that’s beyond shocking, just to hear some of this\nstuff that came from leadership [of the country], and just to see that people\nthat were around leadership would just kind of allow this information to come\nout there. Working at CDC in general I felt that the agency ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1726.0,1748.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\ncould have done a better job of kind of protecting our brand, protecting our\nintegrity as far as how information was shared, when something came out that\nwasn’t true, just quickly saying, like, eh, no,—we know that the government\nofficial said that, but this is not true, and this is the science to support it.\nI think we definitely did do that, but it wasn’t done public enough for people\nto—or quickly enough to kind of counteract the misinformation that was coming\nout of there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1748.0,1779.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Yes, early on we did have a spokeswoman who came out and spoke for CDC, but\nthen she was quickly removed from the spotlight. Then Dr. [Anthony Stephen]\nFauci became the speaker for all public health.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1779.0,1792.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: We appreciated Dr. Fauci.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1792.0,1794.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: We do appreciate Dr. Fauci.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1794.0,1796.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: We definitely did appreciate Dr. Fauci, but yes, just to see that\nhappen in the US, of all countries, was really surprising, because, in the US,\nwe are looked upon globally as leaders ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1796.0,1808.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nwhen it comes to public health, and when it comes to other aspects in general.\nJust to see that we’re the ones hearing this kind of misinformation from our\nleadership was a surprising moment. I think the pandemic, in general, humbled\nAmerica in general. The leadership during the pandemic kind of humbled America\nbecause it did kind of take away from our leadership role, effectively allowed\nmisinformation to come from the highest parts of government. It was definitely a\nhumbling experience to say that, hey, we have work to do internally to kind of\nprotect our public health systems and our public health workers against this\nkind of misrepresentation of this information.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1808.0,1850.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Do you think that, well, do you think it hurt our reputation globally, or\njust in the United States?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1850.0,1857.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: The great thing about CDC is that we have such a huge track record of\njust being dedicated to public health and excellence, so I don’t think it ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1857.0,1868.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\ndid any permanent damage when it came to our reputation, because people\nrecognize the CDC as a center for excellence. In the US in particular, I think\nthere was a lot of distrust, like people would ask me all the time, “You work at\nCDC, what are you guys doing over there?” I’m, like, we’re working our butts\noff, not sleeping. Just because of the way information was shared. At the end of\nthe day, I hope that people realize that nobody’s perfect, all we can do is try\nto improve, and we see that we’re trying to improve as an agency. They recognize\nour long, extensive history of just bringing out excellent work, people that\nhave dedicated their whole lives, thirty plus years, to just public health.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1868.0,1922.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Yes. Dedication is something that’s a huge thread that runs through the culture ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1922.0,1928.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nof CDC.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1928.0,1929.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1929.0,1930.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: During this period of time, also while you’re being deployed and you’re\nworking on COVID, you look at EIS as an option. You applied to EIS probably in,\nwhat, October? What is it? When did you apply to EIS? I’ll let you say.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1930.0,1945.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Yes. Number one, the Epidemic Intelligence Service has always been a\nprogram that I’ve admired since I was doing my Master of Public Health program—\nthat’s the first time I had heard about it. That’s, like, wow, these people are\namazing. They’re leaders. When I got to CDC as a Presidential Management Fellows\nprogram, I was really happy in my position, but I still always looked to the\nEpidemic Intelligence Service program, because they had that dedicated training\nin applied epidemiology outbreak response. They really knew how to communicate\ninformation, whether it’s verbally or through writing manuscripts.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1945.0,1979.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"After or while I was in Connecticut doing my deployment for infection prevention\ncontrol in the nursing homes, I decided to apply to the Epidemic Intelligence Service ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1979.0,1988.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nprogram. This was partly due to an EIS officer that I worked with, Christopher\n[Prestel]. Just seeing his passion and seeing all his skills that he gained\nthrough the fellowship, and then also through the encouragement of two of my\nmentors, Dr. Paul Young and Yoran Grant Greene, who just had nothing but\nexcellent things to say about the fellowship, and really knew that I would gain\nskills in it. I applied in May, and then I found out on October 1st, which was\nNigerian Independence Day, that I was an EIS officer. I was literally in Walmart\ngetting my tires changed, and I get a call from Eric—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=1988.0,2022.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Eric Pevzner?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2022.0,2023.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: —yes, Eric Pevzner, the head of EIS program. The first time, I actually\ndidn’t pick up, because you know, sometimes when you don’t recognize a number,\nyou don’t pick up. Something told me, hey, pick this number up. He called\nagain—thank God he did call again—and I picked up, and he said, “Hey,” like,\n“how are you?” “I’m good.” He’s, like, “Are you ready for some news?” I was,\nlike, “I hope it’s good news.” He’s like, “You’re ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2023.0,2048.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nan EIS Officer.” I literally just started yelling and screaming in the middle of\nWalmart, people are looking at me, like, what’s wrong with this girl? But it was\ndefinitely a great moment. The fact that it happened on October 1st, Nigerian\nIndependence Day, I think that was like God telling me, this is where you’re\nmeant to be. You trusted me, you applied to it, and everything worked out,\nbecause this is where you’re meant to be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2048.0,2075.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: But you also told me that you had the ability to become a full-time—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2075.0,2080.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: I did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2080.0,2081.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Which, FTE [full-time equivalent] is like a golden—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2081.0,2084.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Exactly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2084.0,2085.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: —opportunity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2085.0,2086.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Yes, so when I applied to the EIS, I actually had my full-time FTE. I\nactually gave up the full-time FTE to do EIS. Looking back, no regrets because I\ngained so much from this fellowship. My former job was great, I definitely did\nget to do a lot. There were aspects that I got to focus on, applied\nepidemiology, but that wasn’t my main role. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2086.0,2109.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nHaving a fellowship where it’s dedicated to me one hundred percent of my time\nfocused on applied epidemiology was truly a blessing, and trusting God that I\nwould get a full-time FTE once it’s over in June again. Yes, it was definitely\nworth just giving it up and being a part of this great program.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2109.0,2126.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Yes. Now you’re Commissioned Corps as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2126.0,2129.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2129.0,2130.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Tell me about how that all happened together. Or did it happen altogether?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2130.0,2134.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: It did happen together. Through the EIS program, you had the option to\neither do it as a civilian, or you could do it through the United States Public\nHealth Service Commissioned Corps. I chose to do it through the Commissioned\nCorps after talking to one of my mentors, Paul Young. He had been encouraging me\nprobably since 2017, 2018 to do Commissioned Corps. I was a little reluctant,\njust because I was still learning more about what the United States Public\nHealth Service is. After doing my research, I signed up for a two-year\ncommitment, I said that this was the perfect time to join the Corps as an EIS officer, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2134.0,2169.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nas a pharmacist public health official and just really focus more on service in general.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2169.0,2174.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: That’s what the Commissioned Corps is—it’s mainly about service, and it’s a\nfederal, it’s one of the uniform branches of the federal government, very much\nlike the Marines, Navy, all of that, except that you’re not armed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2174.0,2187.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Exactly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2187.0,2188.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: You’re armed with public health.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2188.0,2190.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Exactly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2190.0,2191.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Yes, it’s a pretty good—oh, love the program. That is what the Public Health\nService is really about now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2191.0,2198.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Exactly. Exactly. Whether it’s hurricanes or Ebola—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2198.0,2201.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Yes, you’ve got it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2201.0,2203.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: —front-line public health responders.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2203.0,2205.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/195","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Now you get virtually matched because it’s still a pandemic happening amongst\nall of this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2205.0,2211.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/196","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2211.0,2212.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/197","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: You get virtually matched with what division or branch?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2212.0,2215.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/198","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: I matched with the Division of Parasitic Diseases and Malaria, and\nwithin the Center for Global Health. It’s a great moment, number one, one of the\ngreat things about my position is that I focus on a variety of parasitic\ndiseases, whether it’s just ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2215.0,2231.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/199","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nlymphatic filariasis or strongyloidiasis—just so many different parasitic\ndiseases. Each day is different, and I get to work on so many different topics\nand projects. My mentors, Sharon [L.] Roy and Caitlin [M.] Worrell, they were\nabsolutely wonderful, just really focused on my professional development, really\nencouraging me, really supportive. The whole branch is in general, like, even\nthough I have my two, my primary supervisor and my secondary supervisor,\neverybody in the entire branch is really invested in my success and my growth,\nwhich makes me feel like I have family, basically.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2231.0,2267.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/200","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Yes, you had family.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2267.0,2269.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/201","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2269.0,2270.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/202","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Yes, so this is not usually your—this is really stepping outside your comfort\nzone. That’s what EIS does— it always makes you look—pivot you 390 degrees.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2270.0,2281.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/203","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Exactly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2281.0,2282.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/204","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Tell me more about the Division, and why you chose that division, too,\nbecause you do have a choice here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2282.0,2290.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/205","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Yes. Yes. Let’s ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2290.0,2292.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nsee, my CDC career has mostly been—apart from the EIS, it was mostly\nHIV-focused. I spent three years in global HIV, then I spent about eight months\nin domestic HIV before I started EIS. With the Parasitic Disease Branch, my\nday-to-day job is to provide counsel to the public [public healthcare\nproviders]. When healthcare providers, infectious disease doctors, they’ll call\nCDC because they have a patient with a parasitic disease that we’re not used to\nseeing in the US. They’ll say, like, “Hey, based on my patient’s symptoms, based\non their travel history,” whether it’s for something like leishmaniasis, “what\nshould I do to diagnose this patient? What should I do to treat the patient?”\nHaving that opportunity to interact with healthcare providers and the fact that\nthey’re able to call CDC at any—we have on-call hours too, so they can call us\nafter hours and they can call us on weekends as well, for emergencies, to be\nable to provide that counsel. That relates to my pharmacy aspect, too, because\nas a pharmacist, we do a lot of consultations, so I was right ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2292.0,2352.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/207","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nin my zone. Going to one of the EIS things that we do is outbreak\ninvestigations, so I’ve gotten to work on donor-derived strongyloidiasis outbreaks.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2352.0,2362.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/208","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Explain was strongyloidiasis is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2362.0,2364.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/209","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: It’s a soil-transmitting helminth that people usually get from an—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2364.0,2368.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/210","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: A helminth is a—?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2368.0,2370.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Parasitic worm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2370.0,2371.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/212","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2371.0,2372.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/213","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: —that people get from contact with contaminated soil. With that, organ\ntransplant recipients may be able to get it from a donor that is infected. If\nthere is a case of an infected recipient, we kind of do an investigation to say,\nhey, is this something that the recipient got from the donor, or is it something\nthat was a reactivation that the recipient already had prior to the transplant?\nI’ll work with state health departments and work with transplant donors as well,\njust to do that investigation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2372.0,2406.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Is this a common thing?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2406.0,2408.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: The overall prevalence is unknown because estimates ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2408.0,2411.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/216","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nare anywhere from thirty to a hundred million people who are infected worldwide\nwith strongyloidiasis. It is unknown. Donor-derived transmission is rare, but it\ndoes happen. When it happens, it can be associated with a high rate of mortality\nand morbidity, because of complications that could arise. Whether it’s\nhyper-infection syndrome or disseminated strongyloidiasis.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2411.0,2434.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/217","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Were you deployed to any outbreaks while you were in EIS?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2434.0,2439.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/218","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: I was deployed for the—COVID response in Dallas, Texas, working at a\nquarantine station, and then I recently did for polio. There was an outbreak of\npolio in Malawi and Mozambique, and I was sent to Zimbabwe because of the nature\nof the borders, just to help do some active surveillance to see if there’s any\nactive cases of polio in Zimbabwe, and also to prepare them for their\nvaccination campaign.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2439.0,2470.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Was ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2470.0,2471.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/220","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nit wild polio, or was it vaccine-derived, or imported?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2471.0,2475.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/221","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: This one was wild polio. Yes. It was actually the strain that was in, I\nbelieve, was it Pakistan or Afghanistan, that somehow was circulated undetected\nfor about two years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2475.0,2488.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/222","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: All right. Are you still working on that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2488.0,2492.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/223","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: I am. I’m actually going back to Zimbabwe in October to work on that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2492.0,2498.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/224","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Are there still active cases of polio?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2498.0,2501.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/225","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: In Zimbabwe, I’m not sure if there’s been any cases detected. Last time\nthat I was there in June, July, there weren’t any detected yet, but we’re doing\nsurveillance for it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2501.0,2514.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/226","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Okay. All right, does the Global Polio Eradication Initiative [GPEI] part of that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2514.0,2520.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/227","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Yes. Yes. Exactly, The CDC’s part of that [GPEI].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2520.0,2524.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/228","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Yes. Yeah, accepting other partners now. It used to be just five partners,\nnow you’re adding somebody ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2524.0,2531.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/229","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n else.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2531.0,2531.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/230","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Exactly, Rotary—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2531.0,2532.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/231","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: The Rotary, yes. Rotary’s been there from the other—yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2532.0,2535.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/232","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2535.0,2536.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/233","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: UNICEF [United Nations International Children’s Emergency Fund], Rotary, us—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2536.0,2539.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/234","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: WHO [World Health Organization].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2539.0,2540.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/235","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: WHO, [Bill \u0026amp; Melinda] Gates Foundation, GAVI [Global Alliance for\nVaccines and Immunization].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2540.0,2544.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/236","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think that’s it. There might be one missing. There was another thing that you\nworked on for COVID. Tell me about that one, the one in Texas.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2544.0,2552.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/237","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Yes, so Texas was the quarantine station. During this time, we still\nhad the global testing order—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2552.0,2557.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/238","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Why were there quarantine stations in Texas?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2557.0,2559.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/239","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: There were quarantine stations at several different airports throughout\nthe US in general.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2559.0,2563.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/240","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The role of the quarantine station is, whenever there is a passenger that’s\nsuspected with any illness, the people at the quarantine station would meet\nthem, assess them when they get off their flight, and if they need to, they\nwould quarantine them. The quarantine station also provides medications where\nthey’re needed so they can get it in time, so they have certain medications that\nthey keep there. During this time, they had the global testing and the global\nvaccine order was still in place. My role during ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2563.0,2589.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/241","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nthat time as a quarantine officer was just to help do compliance checks for the\nairlines, to make sure that all passengers that were coming into the country did\nhave a valid negative COVID test, and if they weren’t US citizens, if they were\nalready vaccinated for COVID-19.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2589.0,2606.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/242","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Did you have any instances if there were people who didn’t have COVID\nvaccination cards, or were not vaccinated?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2606.0,2613.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/243","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Luckily for all the compli [compliance checks]—it is random, so for the\nflights that we did check, everybody was compliant.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2613.0,2621.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/244","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Okay. Did you ever hear about any non-compliance?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2621.0,2624.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/245","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: I did not in particular.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2624.0,2626.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/246","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Okay. All right. Around this time, aren’t you just getting a little burned\nout? Like, that’s a lot of work, COVID, and you’re in your EIS. You’re still in\nyour EIS program. Do you ever get to take a break? Or do you ever work on your\nown mental health?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2626.0,2645.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/247","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: I’m really close to my family, so being around ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2645.0,2649.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/248","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nmy family definitely did help me during the whole COVID time. Even with friends,\ntechnology in general— and the fact that we now have whether it’s FaceTime or\nvideo conferencing, since you’re still able to see people’s faces even though\nyou might not need to physically be with them—definitely made things easier.\nThere was a period of time during the pandemic that I did experience burnout. My\nsolution to that was basically to take a year off the response. After doing\nabout four or five deployments, I just took a year off when I purposely didn’t\ndo any COVID-19 deployments, just because I needed a mental break and a physical\nbreak from working on a response. Working on a response, you do put in a lot of\nhours. Sometimes it is twelve or thirteen hours a day, just because leadership\nneeds information, the organizations you’re working with need information. You\nstill have that self-drive to get this information out with them. Another thing\nthat I did for my mental health, binge-watched a lot of Netflix shows. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2649.0,2709.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/249","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nI was always aware of how I was feeling,—so whenever I did feel like, hey,\nthings are a little bit heavy right now, I would always kind of realize that and\nshare that with a close friends. Like, hey, I’m feeling a little bit heavy about\nthings right now, let’s talk through why I’m feeling this way. That usually\nhelped me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2709.0,2727.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/250","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Did you have any worry for your own family members because you said you would\nbe going out and then you’d come back to your bubble.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2727.0,2735.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/251","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2735.0,2736.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/252","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Did you worry about your family?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2736.0,2738.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/253","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: I did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2738.0,2739.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/254","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Are they all in Atlanta?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2739.0,2741.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/255","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Yes, they’re—let’s see. One, my sister, Lola, she was in Utah at this\ntime, but my other siblings, Bunmi [phonetic: boo-me] and Yemi [phonetic:\nyem-me], they were in Atlanta at this time. My mom, also. I was sometimes\ndeployed to work at the Grady Hospital, —but my mom, she owns an independent\npharmacy in Georgia. Her business was still open during the pandemic too, so at\nthe same time that I was sometimes deployed for the pandemic, she was, on a\ndaily basis, helping people get their medications, keeping her business open\nduring the pandemic ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2741.0,2770.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/256","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nso there was always that fear that she had too, like hey, I’m interacting with\npeople, even though I have on my N95 mask, there’s still always that risk that,\nGod forbid, I bring something back home to my family. We did have those measures\nof using hand sanitizer, washing hands as much as possible, changing your\nclothes when you get home, and just praying for the best.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2770.0,2794.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/257","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Did she have that ritual when she came back home? She would—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2794.0,2799.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/258","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Exactly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2799.0,2800.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/259","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: —take her clothes off, put them down there, change.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2800.0,2804.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/260","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Exactly. Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2804.0,2805.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/261","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Yes. That was a lot of people did that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2805.0,2809.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/262","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Exactly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2809.0,2810.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/263","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: But it seemed to work.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2810.0,2812.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/264","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2812.0,2813.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/265","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: We’re still kind of in the pandemic, and your entire EIS experience has been\nframed by the pandemic. You were the only class that has. Did it affect your\nclass, do you think? Or because what EIS does also is, creates this camaraderie,\nthis elite group that can go out and then spread their ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2813.0,2832.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/266","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nknowledge to other people, they’re like seeds on the wind. You guys, have you\nhad a chance to really know each other as a class, and that way you can interact\nlater when you’re in your other lives?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2832.0,2844.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/267","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: I think definitely the fact that we did do EIS during the pandemic kind\nof didn’t allow us to have that strong bond that you usually hear about with the\nother EIS classes. Like, I hear people talk about, yeah, we were in EIS twenty\nyears ago together. They were at my baby shower, X, Y and Z—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2844.0,2862.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/268","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because we were virtual for summer classes. We didn’t get that time to really\nbond together. We do have our signal chat groups that we try to keep in touch.\nRecently we met in person, which was great for our fall class, and just to see\neverybody’s faces and say, okay, yeah, I’m used to seeing you on the screen.\nThis is what you look like in person—that was really nice. We’re trying to do a\nbetter job of it. 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I think we have about seven LLS\n[Laboratory Leadership Service], the laboratory fellows.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2898.0,2906.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/272","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Yes. “LLS” is Laboratory—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2906.0,2908.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/273","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Leadership Service.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2908.0,2909.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/274","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Leadership Service?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2909.0,2910.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/275","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: I believe so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2910.0,2912.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/276","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: That’s it? Yes. We’re coming up on time here, but I just wanted to get to our\nreflective part on this, and this is totally up to whether you want to—but I\nwanted to ask, how do you think COVID pandemic will change our work lives and\nour personal lives? We kind of touched on that a little bit. Do you think we’ll\njust go back to nine to five? Or will we be a different hybrid society?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2912.0,2943.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/277","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Moving forward, a lot of people will be a hybrid society. The fact that\nwe’ve shown, that we can do our work ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2943.0,2952.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/278","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nand we can do our work with excellence while working remotely just shows the\nneed, that we don’t have to be together twenty-four seven. I think for some\npeople that do like to have that consistent interaction, like to come into the\noffice, that option is still available for them if they choose to do so. The\nfact that that flexibility’s recognized not only in headquarters here in the US,\nbut even for our overseas programs, that before, some offices didn’t allow\ntelework. During the pandemic, overseas, they were forced to work from home for\ntwo years. They showed that they can do it effectively. Those offices that\ndidn’t have any telework policy before overseas, they do now have a telework\npolicy, which helps as well when gas prices are going sky-high.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2952.0,2998.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/279","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: It’s helpful for the environment, too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=2998.0,3000.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/280","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Exactly. Exactly. Even with using masks, like we saw during the\npandemic that the number of other diseases, or even flu in general, it was\nlower, because people were washing their hands, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=3000.0,3012.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/281","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nusing hand sanitizer—so hopefully people will keep with some of those same\npractices. Just so that when it does come to flu season, we won’t see the usual\nhigh numbers that we saw before the pandemic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=3012.0,3023.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/282","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Right. The loss of people who were not able to get their long-term or chronic\ncare while the pandemic was going on, that’s another thing that we need to look\ninto, because—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=3023.0,3033.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/283","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Exactly, yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=3033.0,3034.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/284","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: —we need to still—even though we’re concentrating on this pandemic, there’s\nstill the same stuff going on—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=3034.0,3040.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/285","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Exactly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=3040.0,3041.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/286","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: —at the same time. It’s a hard thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=3041.0,3044.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/287","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=3044.0,3045.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/288","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: You can still have the same amount of people working on all of this, which is\nwhy the burnout happens.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=3045.0,3051.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/289","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Yes. Yes, definitely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=3051.0,3052.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/290","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Have you seen any people around you change their opinions or their day-to-day\nactivities in response to the pandemic? Like they, at one point in time, thought\nthis really isn’t a pandemic—oh my God, this is a pandemic, or this vaccine—I’m\nnot sure you had touched on that. Had you seen that in your day-to-day? Did you\nhave any loss of friends or relationships with friends ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=3052.0,3073.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/291","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nbecause of their opinions on vaccination?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=3073.0,3075.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/292","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: Definitely got into a lot of verbal disagreements, I won’t say\narguments, although some might classify as arguments. Yes, definitely had a lot\nof those conversations, even some people that were in the healthcare field. I’m,\nlike, “Hey, you’re in the healthcare field, why are you thinking like this,” or,\n“Why don’t you believe in the science?” That was kind of difficult to have with people—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=3075.0,3101.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/293","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: With colleagues.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=3101.0,3102.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/294","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: With colleagues and with family members too, that were highly educated,\nbut at the same time, they don’t want to believe the science. Just me trying to\nunderstand their perspective, I tried to be open-minded, but I couldn’t\nunderstand their perspective.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=3102.0,3118.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/295","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Wow. How did you have a conversation like that? It’s, like, you know that\nthey’re scientists, but yet they’re not believing the science. It’s a hard\nconversation to have.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=3118.0,3129.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/296","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ADEYEMO: It is. It is. It’s a hard conversation, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=3129.0,3132.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/297","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nit’s a sad conversation, too, because at the end of the day, some people didn’t\ntake it seriously until it happened to somebody that they knew, or it happened\nto them personally. My thing is, like, I don’t want this to happen to you\npersonally for you to realize that this is real, for you to get the vaccine. All\nI could do at the end of the day, especially when it came to some family members\nthat were reluctant, is just pray for God’s protection, because it’s real. It’s\nreal. 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Even\nyourself, the fact that you’re documenting this as a part of history, it just\nreally shows ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=3178.0,3192.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/303","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nthat the colleagues at CDC are dedicated to the mission, they’re dedicated to\nprotecting the US and globally from different public health threats. I just want\npeople to just realize that people here are hard-working, they’re passionate\nabout their work. They want to do what’s best, but at the same time, we’re not\nperfect. There’s always room for improvement. The fact that the agency is just\nmoving towards making those improvements, whether it’s through our clearance\nprocess to get more information out there, or just being a little bit more\ntransparent with things that they can be in a quicker pace is encouraging.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534#t=3192.0,3228.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134480/file/249534/transcript/69846/annotation/304","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Has there been anything on your mind throughout the whole pandemic, a thread\nthat’s been there? 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