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This is Mary Hilpertshauser for the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=0.0,6.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"COVID-19 Oral History and Memory Archive Project. I'm in Atlanta, Georgia, and I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=6.0,12.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"will be talking to Ruoran Li, who is in another part of Atlanta. We're recording","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=12.0,18.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"through Zoom. Ruoran is a member of the 2020 Class of CDC's [Centers for Disease","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=18.0,24.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Control and Prevention] Epidemic Intelligence Service [EIS]. She received a BA","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=24.0,29.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[Bachelor of Arts] in Natural Sciences and an MPhil, a Master's in Philosophy in","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=29.0,35.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Epidemiology from the University of Cambridge. After completing her masters,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=35.0,39.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ruoran was an intern at WHO [World HFealth Organization] working in the Global","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=39.0,45.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Influenza Programme, and a research epidemiologist at the London School of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=45.0,50.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hygiene \u0026 Tropical Medicine. 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Do I have your permission to interview you and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=74.0,80.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"record this session?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=80.0,81.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LI: Yes. Thanks.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=81.0,82.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Right. Great. Before we delve into the details of your path to CDC and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=82.0,89.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"COVID-19, could you tell me a little bit about your family background and the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=89.0,95.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"community where you grew up?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=95.0,97.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LI: Yes, sure. I grew up in China, and I was actually part of the very first","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=97.0,104.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"SARS [severe acute respiratory syndrome] outbreak in 2002 and '03. 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I did a research degree.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=1040.0,1044.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/217","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's nice, I transitioned back to infectious diseases within my doctoral thesis,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=1044.0,1050.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/218","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and I was mainly working on tuberculosis [TB] back then. 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People think it's a disease of the past, but ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=1072.0,1077.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/222","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nactually it is just a","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=1077.0,1079.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/223","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"disease of the poor. 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As time goes on, we do see that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=1091.0,1099.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/226","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"start to happen [for COVID]. 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You were doing your PhD and you were doing your","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=1185.0,1192.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/242","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"research on TB. 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Or you're actually in the United States now?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=1198.0,1203.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/245","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LI: Yes. Yes, I mean, I wasn't--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=1203.0,1206.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/246","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: You're going to the United States, you're in Harvard, you are doing a TB","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=1206.0,1212.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/247","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"study on the United States or the world?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=1212.0,1215.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/248","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LI: The world.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=1215.0,1216.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/249","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=1216.0,1217.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/250","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LI: Yes, our focus was in Peru as well as in India, so countries especially","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=1217.0,1223.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/251","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"India, there was so many cases, and also many of the undiagnosed cases, [I was]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=1223.0,1229.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/252","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"trying to think about how we can improve the diagnosis, but also accurately","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=1229.0,1235.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/253","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"address, estimate the burden in different places to have accurate public health","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=1235.0,1240.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/254","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"response there. It's more of global health work I was doing back then.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=1240.0,1246.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/255","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: All right. Your research on TB, was that to inform ministries of health about","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=1246.0,1252.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/256","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the TB burden and perhaps ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=1252.0,1254.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/257","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nrecommend certain things for them? 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Yes, part of my research is--the target audience is not","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=1266.0,1272.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/261","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ministers of health, but actual health providers and public health workers who","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=1272.0,1277.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/262","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"are seeing TB patients and seeing their families. 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Can you describe exactly how you got into that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=1495.0,1501.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/305","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Or did you just volunteer while you're doing your doctoral work?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=1501.0,1506.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/306","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LI: Yes, volunteered, in a word. Yes, I volunteered. 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Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=3325.0,3327.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/647","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Twenty nineteen, so you found out probably in October of 2019. Then you're","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=3327.0,3333.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/648","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"coming up in April, or you're matching. 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From personal perspective, I did learn a","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=4401.0,4406.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/840","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"lot in terms of how data could help or could not help in situations like this,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=4406.0,4413.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/841","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"where more data were collected with this Christmas tree costume in mind. It was","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=4413.0,4419.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/842","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"very hard to assess transmissions outside of Christmas Day, and think about all","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=4419.0,4425.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/843","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the practices, observations we were making in hospital, so for me to learn how","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=4425.0,4431.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/844","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to pull everything together, to form a bigger picture of what's happening and to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=4431.0,4437.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/845","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"give some recommendations to health departments.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=4437.0,4440.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/846","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Plus-- you had to walk that delicate diplomatic area between the media, I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=4440.0,4446.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/847","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"think--because of the Christmas tree, it sounded like a really interesting","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=4446.0,4451.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/848","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"story, so the media picked up on ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=4451.0,4454.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/849","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nit. I know you guys in EIS had media training.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=4454.0,4458.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/850","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Did your media training help you with that at all?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=4458.0,4462.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/851","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LI: We didn't [talk to media]--well, it helped me in other ways. In this","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=4462.0,4468.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/852","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"particular outbreak, I think the media was happy they got the Christmas tree","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=4468.0,4474.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/853","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"story out of the way even before health departments came onsite and do all these","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=4474.0,4481.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/854","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"visits. We weren't approached by media-- to kind of correct that story, but we","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=4481.0,4487.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/855","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"did send our recommendations in terms of what system factors the hospital could","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=4487.0,4493.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/856","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"improve to prevent further transmission events like this. Those were picked up","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=4493.0,4498.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/857","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"by one of the local media, who published that--I don't know where they got that,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=4498.0,4505.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/858","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but [they] published [the report]. The title is not the \"Christmas Tree.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=4505.0,4510.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/859","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=4510.0,4511.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/860","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"While we're on the topic of ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=4511.0,4514.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/861","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nmedia, I wanted to talk a little bit more about","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=4514.0,4519.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/862","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"media as a whole for CDC. Now media has had a high profile during the pandemic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=4519.0,4527.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/863","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I know we talked about the social media help or harm, but while you've been here","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=4527.0,4535.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/864","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"at CDC, there's been a lot of media directed at CDC and how we ourselves","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=4535.0,4543.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/865","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"responded, and then a lot of the misinformation that has come out during this","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=4543.0,4550.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/866","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"time. How has misinformation, or media actually impacted your EIS time?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=4550.0,4556.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/867","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LI: I think it definitely have impacted. Well, I stopped using Twitter. I think","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=4556.0,4563.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/868","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that's a good impact, I guess, because it's just so much information. I do","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=4563.0,4570.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/869","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"appreciate--I forgot who it was, one of the Twitter ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=4570.0,4575.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/870","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nfollowers, a Twitter person","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=4575.0,4577.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/871","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I follow who said that really, many people who are actually working in public","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=4577.0,4584.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/872","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"health don't have time to go through all the news reports that are coming out of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=4584.0,4592.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/873","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"COVID, and probably even less informed than the general public about what's the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=4592.0,4599.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/874","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"latest topic in COVID. 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Personally, I myself, and I know all the colleagues I work with who's in","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=4934.0,4941.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/934","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"public health is going to work on COVID as they have worked on other diseases","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=4941.0,4948.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/935","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"before COVID, and other factors, and effect [of] these diseases before COVID,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=4948.0,4953.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/936","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"going forward. I'm glad there are many people who's interested in infectious","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=4953.0,4958.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/937","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"disease, and aware that there are infectious diseases that could affect","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=4958.0,4963.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/938","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"everyone. But understand on the other side of the coin, I'm quite pessimistic","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=4963.0,4969.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/939","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that things are going to change, because likely they're not-- probably smaller","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=4969.0,4974.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/940","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"steps by smaller steps. It's a very hard topic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=4974.0,4978.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/941","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: It is. This brings up another topic that COVID has also brought to the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=4978.0,4985.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/942","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"forefront, and that is people's mental health and the repercussions for future","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=4985.0,4990.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/943","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"generations-- burnout of people working on COVID, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=4990.0,4993.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/944","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\npeople recovering from COVID.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=4993.0,4995.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/945","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You can see it now. Not many people are sharing those things right now, but I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=4995.0,5002.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/946","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"think that is going to be one of the--I hate to call it this, but a legacy of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5002.0,5010.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/947","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"COVID is mental health. Hopefully people will put more emphasis and importance","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5010.0,5015.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/948","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"on that. I don't know how your mental health was during this period of time,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5015.0,5022.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/949","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that's a very personal thing to ask you. But did you do some things for yourself","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5022.0,5029.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/950","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to keep you--lack of a better word, here--sane and human, and healthy, mentally?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5029.0,5035.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/951","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LI: Thanks for asking. Definitely still human, probably not sane, but like","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5035.0,5040.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/952","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"everyone else. Yes, I do personally feel the toll of just remote","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5040.0,5045.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/953","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"work--I don't know what it is. 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I haven't been talking to anyone, but from the early","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5052.0,5058.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/956","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"COVID response [in the U.S.], I was almost cruising a little bit, especially when","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5058.0,5064.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/957","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I first joined EIS, just recovered from the early Chinese COVID response, and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5064.0,5069.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/958","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"now working out what are things [that are important in life]--while going out","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5069.0,5074.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/959","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"for a walk is my way of trying to counter this, and hopefully everyone will be","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5074.0,5080.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/960","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"much better once many of the in-person social activities starts to come.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5080.0,5085.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/961","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Yes, this is a little isolating for a lot of people. I have to ask you, your","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5085.0,5092.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/962","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"home life, you were working from home, and teleworking as part of that. Do you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5092.0,5098.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/963","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"think teleworking kind of changed the ways we, as an agency, or even people are","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5098.0,5104.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/964","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"going to be working now? There'll be a lot more remote work, or do you think it","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5104.0,5111.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/965","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"also is ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5111.0,5112.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/966","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nchanging in the way that people collaborate?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5112.0,5115.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/967","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In some ways we connect more with people from farther distance away, and some","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5115.0,5121.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/968","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"things even the people that are closest to us are further away because we can't","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5121.0,5128.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/969","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"get close to them. Now it's weird, because I can talk to people across the pond,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5128.0,5135.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/970","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but I can't really talk to my friends. Early on, that was hard. Then having your","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5135.0,5142.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/971","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"family and friends far away, too, that was hard. What was that like for you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5142.0,5149.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/972","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LI: I do think it--I don't know what it's like before COVID, especially in kind","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5149.0,5156.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/973","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of outbreak response work, where many different people work together. I do","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5156.0,5161.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/974","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"appreciate now that I feel like I'm in the same room as a state health","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5161.0,5168.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/975","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"department colleague who's just calling in to chat. 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I think that's","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5180.0,5187.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/979","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a really good element coming out of this. Not sure how the social aspect works,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5187.0,5194.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/980","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we'll see when we return to work next month.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5194.0,5198.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/981","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Has it affected your relationship with friends and family? Do you have family","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5198.0,5204.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/982","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"close, or are they still back--?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5204.0,5207.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/983","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LI: I have some family in the U.S.--my cousin visited last month, which is","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5207.0,5213.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/984","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"great. 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Yes, I'm","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5257.0,5264.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/994","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"glad I went back in 2019.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5264.0,5267.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/995","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Yes. 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There will be--people will get COVID at some time,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5377.0,5388.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/1013","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but as we discussed early, it will be like TB. I think I remember back SARS in","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5388.0,5403.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/1014","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"2002 and '03, well, I experienced it. 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We all had to sit down for fifteen","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5568.0,5574.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/1042","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"minutes. When you were sitting there for fifteen minutes, what was going on in","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5574.0,5580.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/1043","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"your mind?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5580.0,5581.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/1044","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LI: I wish I could say it's a feeling of relief, because I know a lot people","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5581.0,5589.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/1045","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"feel like the pandemic is over. I didn't. What was I thinking? 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It's my personal getting","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5602.0,5609.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/1049","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"vaccine doesn't really change anything for me. I think I was a little--can I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5609.0,5617.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/1050","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"say--I think I'm still--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5617.0,5619.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/1051","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes, so, yes, I don't remember. I'm quite amazed and glad, that afterwards I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5619.0,5627.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/1052","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"read people who said, oh, feeling relief. I think partly also because I belong","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5627.0,5635.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/1053","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to this low-risk group where even before vaccination, probably my risk of COVID","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5635.0,5642.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/1054","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is not that high. Because I worked on TB before, and cancer before. It's already","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5642.0,5650.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/1055","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"had a preconceived level of risk. I already accepted COVID into the risk of my","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5650.0,5658.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/1056","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"life, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5658.0,5659.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/1057","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nso it wasn't--there was nothing personal in terms of how it has changed","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5659.0,5665.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/1058","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"me, but more thinking about the broader scale.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5665.0,5669.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/1059","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Well, we are on time, and I want to just ask you this last question. It's","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5669.0,5677.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/1060","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"really not really a question, but I just want to make sure that we have covered","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5677.0,5685.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/1061","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"everything that you wanted to share. Is there anything that we haven't covered","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5685.0,5691.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/1062","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that you wanted to share?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5691.0,5693.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/1063","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"LI: No. I think we've covered everything. Yes, thanks for having me, glad to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5693.0,5700.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/1064","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"keep in touch later on. Let me know if you have any questions about what I've","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5700.0,5708.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/1065","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"talked about just now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5708.0,5710.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/1066","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: All right, well, thank you. I'm going to stop the recording now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5710.0,5716.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545/transcript/69857/annotation/1067","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[END OF INTERVIEW] ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134493/file/249545#t=5716.0,5717.0"}]}]}]}