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This is Mary Hilpertshauser for the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=0.0,4.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"COVID-19 Oral History and Memory Archive Project. I'm in Atlanta, Georgia, and I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=4.0,8.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"will be talking to Robert [A.] Bonacci who's also in Atlanta, Georgia, and we","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=8.0,13.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"are according through Zoom. Rob, do I have your permission to interview you and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=13.0,18.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"record this session?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=18.0,19.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BONACCI: Yes, you do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=19.0,20.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: For the record, can I ask you to say your name and then tell me what your","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=20.0,26.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"current position is with CDC [Centers for Disease Control and Prevention]?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=26.0,30.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BONACCI: Absolutely. My name is Robert Bonacci, I'm an Epidemic Intelligence","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=30.0,34.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Service [EIS] officer on the Prevention Research team of the HIV [human","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=34.0,38.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"immunodeficiency virus] research branch in the Division of HIV Prevention at CDC.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=38.0,42.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Okay, thank you so much for being with me. Before we delve into the whole","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=42.0,47.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"details of your path to CDC, can you just tell me a little bit about your family","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=47.0,53.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"background and the community where you grew up?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=53.0,56.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BONACCI: Absolutely. I was born in Cleveland, Ohio, but was raised in a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=56.0,60.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n suburb","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=60.0,60.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of Akron, Ohio, called Bath. I am the oldest of five children, so I have one","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=60.0,66.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"younger brother and three younger sisters, and my parents, Mario, and Carol, are","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=66.0,71.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"both particularly influential I think in the early part of my life. 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We were, certainly in Botswana, in Lesotho, in Malawi,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=1648.0,1653.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/355","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was often seeing the effects of both of those co-occurring epidemics in the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=1653.0,1658.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/356","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"patient population I was taking care of.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=1658.0,1661.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/357","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Why are the HIV rates so high?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=1661.0,1664.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/358","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BONACCI: I don't know that I'm the best acquainted with the full history, but I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=1664.0,1670.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/359","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"think one--a few reasons or one that there was an under--a vast","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=1670.0,1675.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/360","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"underappreciation of the burden of HIV in various countries on the continent","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=1675.0,1680.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/361","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"early on. Because there was an underappreciation of the burden of HIV, then","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=1680.0,1685.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/362","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"there wasn't--there also weren't sufficient resources for testing and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=1685.0,1689.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/363","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n diagnosis,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=1689.0,1689.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/364","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"there weren't sufficient resources directed towards treatment. 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It was just a disease that was brand new, didn't know anything","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=3798.0,3805.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/840","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"about it, didn't really know the whole transmission route either, so many","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=3805.0,3810.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/841","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"theories about that. 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You know I think our American","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=4630.0,4635.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1024","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"society has gone through a lot of growing pains in the last two and a half years","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=4635.0,4641.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1025","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of the pandemic. 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I then I think that has more broadly spread from COVID to healthcare,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=4721.0,4727.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1044","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to healthcare systems, and to public health in general and so that distrust,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=4727.0,4732.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1045","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"while its nidus or its origins may be in the COVID pandemic, I think have spread ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=4732.0,4739.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1046","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nmore broadly to medical care, to trust or lack thereof in our public health","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=4739.0,4745.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1047","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"systems, in our hospital systems, in the value of communication coming from","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=4745.0,4750.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1048","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"clinicians, coming from hospital or healthcare organizations, coming from public","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=4750.0,4754.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1049","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"health organizations or our public health leadership at state, local--at state","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=4754.0,4759.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1050","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"levels, the state health departments or local health departments. Certainly, at","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=4759.0,4764.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1051","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CDC, I think it has changed in many ways the way these agencies and health","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=4764.0,4770.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1052","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"departments are perceived and then again, I don't think this is uniform for","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=4770.0,4775.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1053","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"everyone. I think there's, in some ways, been a splintering in our society of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=4775.0,4781.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1054","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"people that you know believe in the value of these organizations and agencies","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=4781.0,4786.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1055","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or, even if they don't agree with everything the agencies are doing, and then","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=4786.0,4792.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1056","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"there's a segment of the population that has been--become very distrustful over","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=4792.0,4797.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1057","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"time of public health authorities and clinical ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=4797.0,4800.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1058","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nauthorities. 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I think the pandemic and the failings are so large and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=4820.0,4826.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1064","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"widespread, so as not to be laid at the feet of only one person or organization,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=4826.0,4834.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1065","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but certainly I think our failures in communication extended to the highest","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=4834.0,4840.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1066","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"levels of our federal government. Certainly, we had a president at the time,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=4840.0,4846.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1067","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Donald [J.] Trump, who was often in the COVID briefings at the White House. I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=4846.0,4853.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1068","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"remember how ridiculous it was after he was joking about injecting bleach and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=4853.0,4859.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1069","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"using ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=4859.0,4859.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1070","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nLysol as ways to treat COVID. Certainly others--himself and others in the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=4859.0,4864.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1071","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"administration were pushing things like hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=4864.0,4868.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1072","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"treatments, which have been shown repeatedly now to not be effective in treating","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=4868.0,4874.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1073","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"COVID. 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So, you have the federal guidance, but it's up to the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=5021.0,5027.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"states too--whether to use that guidance or not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=5027.0,5030.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BONACCI: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=5030.0,5031.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: All right, yeah, which makes it not so clear when you're going down to the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=5031.0,5038.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"state level from federal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=5038.0,5040.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BONACCI: Yes, absolutely. 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Rather than one unified national response, what we really had was","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=5061.0,5066.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"either dozens or hundreds or thousands of different niduses of leadership in","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=5066.0,5071.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"addressing COVID. 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Okay because we're--there's Indian Health Services which is part of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=6076.0,6080.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1357","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"this web of HHS [United States Department of Health and Human Services].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=6080.0,6084.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1358","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BONACCI: Yeah, yeah. Yes, and I don't know if we specifically have anybody at an","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=6084.0,6090.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1359","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"IHS [Indian Health Service] site, but I do know some of the--there are some","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=6090.0,6095.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1360","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sites that even if they're not a part of IHS, have the opportunity to work","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=6095.0,6101.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1361","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"directly with tribal jurisdictions and organizations.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=6101.0,6103.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1362","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Yes. Okay, and so let's move to some of the things that you were working on","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=6103.0,6109.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1363","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"during your EIS time. 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I deployed to the State of ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=6119.0,6122.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1366","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nWashington with my co-fellow who is","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=6122.0,6124.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1367","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"based at the state, Jay [James S.] Miller. 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What have you been doing for own","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=7378.0,7384.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1651","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"mental health?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=7384.0,7385.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1652","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BONACCI: Yeah, you know it certainly has been a challenge. 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I did that often in Boston, and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=7411.0,7417.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1658","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"even when I was on clinical services working long hours, I often found that if I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=7417.0,7423.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1659","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"could escape after work on a night or on my one day off on a weekend to get a","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=7423.0,7430.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1660","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"run in, that was a great way to get some anxiety out and get some kind ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=7430.0,7436.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1661","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\n of--just","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=7436.0,7436.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1662","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"get energy out and tire myself out a little bit and calm my mind and I continued","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=7436.0,7442.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1663","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that down here in Atlanta. When I moved down to Atlanta, we adopted a dog on","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=7442.0,7447.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1664","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"July 1 of 2020 right after I moved down and so in the last two years in the EIS,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=7447.0,7453.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1665","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"one of the ways I've tried to protect and care for my own mental health has been","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=7453.0,7459.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1666","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"getting regular exercise with him, Jackson. We usually run a couple of miles","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=7459.0,7463.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1667","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"together a few times a week. Certainly, I think one of the other ways that I've","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=7463.0,7468.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1668","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"tried to care for and protect my mental health is to stay connected to my","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=7468.0,7473.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1669","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"family. 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While I haven't necessarily picked up","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=7512.0,7517.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1679","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sourdough bread baking like many others had during COVID, I have picked up","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=7517.0,7521.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1680","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sourdough bread buying and so I love going to our local bakeries and just trying","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=7521.0,7526.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1681","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"different breads and foods and then getting to cook interesting things at home","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=7526.0,7530.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1682","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"has been a fun way to do it. But those are on the lighter, more of positive","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=7530.0,7536.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1683","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sides of the mental health equation, but that's also not to discount or to say","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=7536.0,7541.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1684","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"how difficult the last couple of years have been.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=7541.0,7544.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1685","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't know, I think I'm fortunate that I've weathered it relatively well, but","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=7544.0,7549.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1686","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"certainly, particularly in those first couple of months when I was doing","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=7549.0,7553.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1687","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"clinical work on--in the COVID ICUs and in our COVID internal ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=7553.0,7557.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1688","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\nmedicine special","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=7557.0,7558.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1689","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"pathogen units, I mean there were just--it was overwhelming at times. It felt","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=7558.0,7565.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1690","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"overwhelming at times, both the burden of the work and just the amount of grief","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=7565.0,7573.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1691","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and sadness that we were witnessing. Certainly, in the last couple years, I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=7573.0,7580.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1692","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"found that I had been more overcome by grief and sadness in various moments than","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=7580.0,7588.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1693","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I had been in the years preceding. I've lost a couple of friends not to COVID","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=7588.0,7596.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1694","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but who have--their deaths have coincided during the pandemic, and I just found","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=7596.0,7603.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1695","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"myself--or mentors who have passed--found myself stricken with grief in","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=7603.0,7608.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1696","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"unexpected moments thinking about the loss of those friends and mentors. 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Is this around the same time you got your shot or your wife?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=7774.0,7781.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1731","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"BONACCI: Yes, so my wife got hers before me because she was actively working in","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537#t=7781.0,7788.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/249537/transcript/69849/annotation/1732","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the COVID ICUs. She was one of the first people in the state to get it. 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Again, this","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=646.0,650.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"isn't only unique to West Virginia, there are other communities that have faced","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=650.0,654.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"similar situations previously where there have been outbreaks among people who","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=654.0,658.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"inject drugs, but at the same time, increasing restrictions","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=658.0,661.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"on syringe services","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=661.0,662.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"programs. Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=662.0,663.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eQ:\u003c/strong\u003e In our pre-interview or part of that we had--you brought up something, which","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=663.0,669.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I found really interesting, the term structural violence, and I know that came","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=669.0,674.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"out of Paul Farmer article. Could you talk a little bit more about structural violence?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=674.0,680.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eBONACCI:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, absolutely. I learned a lot about the concept of structural","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=680.0,685.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"violence from Paul's work. I don't think he was the first person to create the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=685.0,691.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"phrase or the idea, but I think Paul and colleagues did a lot of work to advance","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=691.0,698.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"an understanding of structural violence, particularly in health context. What I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=698.0,702.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"mean by that and what I think Paul meant by that is that structural violence","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=702.0,708.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is--and this is quoting from an article that that he had helped cowrite--is one","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=708.0,714.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"way of describing social arrangements that put individuals and populations in","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=714.0,718.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"harm's way. 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I think this project","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=1193.0,1195.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/348","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and this work is timely in that this is an increasing point of emphasis in","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=1195.0,1198.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/349","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"public policy discussions, but I think where--what the direction it's heading in","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=1198.0,1200.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/350","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"still remains to be seen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=1200.0,1201.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/351","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eQ:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay. Thank you for that. I think we've covered enough on COVID","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=1201.0,1203.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/352","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"right now and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=1203.0,1204.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/353","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"your EIS time. I wanted to turn a little bit towards more of a personal note of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=1204.0,1209.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/354","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"your life. I do want to ask one quick question though because this man has come","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=1209.0,1214.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/355","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"up in our conversation several, several times. Have you ever met Paul Farmer?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=1214.0,1218.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/356","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eBONACCI:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, so Dr. Farmer, the late Dr. Farmer, passed away just a couple","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=1218.0,1222.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/357","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"months ago, was somebody I learned about, I think as I mentioned earlier when I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=1222.0,1226.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/358","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was in college and learned about him from the book Mountains Beyond Mountains,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=1226.0,1230.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/359","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which Tracy Kidder wrote to describe the work that he and colleagues were doing","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=1230.0,1234.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/360","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"at Partners in Health in Haiti. I first learned about him then and then started","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=1234.0,1238.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/361","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"reading some of his work, but Paul was the division director for the Division of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=1238.0,1242.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/362","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Global Health Equity at Brigham and Women's Hospital where I did my residency. 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We couldn't travel anywhere actually. 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But I do reflect on my wife, and I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=2286.0,2287.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/653","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"have either friendships or people we know in our family or in our friend circles","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=2287.0,2288.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/654","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"who I think maybe share different views than we do about the importance of COVID","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=2288.0,2289.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/655","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and the importance of trying to protect others from COVID. 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It's a tough thing to navigate because you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=2295.0,2296.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/672","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"may have a long history and long-standing relationships with some people and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=2296.0,2296.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/673","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"then at the same time, there might be an issue like protecting yourself or","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=2296.0,2297.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/674","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"others from COVID that feels so important to you that it can be hard to rectify","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=2297.0,2298.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/675","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that relationship or to square that relationship when somebody doesn't share","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=2298.0,2298.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/676","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"your views about something that you feel are so central to your health,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=2298.0,2298.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/677","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"particularly I think about in the context of protecting the health of others.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=2298.0,2298.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/678","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, so I certainly identify with that having happened throughout the pandemic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=2298.0,2298.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/679","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eQ:\u003c/strong\u003e You think of the loss of community. 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It seems to me now that this has been going on for a couple of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=2312.0,2313.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/697","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"years and we have seen waning and waxing of COVID at various times and the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=2313.0,2314.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/698","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"appearance of new variants, I would expect that COVID is going to be with us","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=2314.0,2315.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/699","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"here for a while. How long exactly, I don't know, and what that looks like","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=2315.0,2316.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/700","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"exactly, I'm not sure, but over the last couple years, we have worked to learn","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=2316.0,2317.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/701","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to live with it, and I think we will continue to need to do that for the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=2317.0,2318.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/702","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"foreseeable future.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=2318.0,2318.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/703","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Learning to live with it though, I think that that can mean a lot of different","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=2318.0,2319.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/704","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"things. 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And so I think it's definitely here with us for a little while. How","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=2325.0,2326.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/718","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"long exactly, I don't know, and what those variants will look like, I'm not a","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=2326.0,2327.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/719","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"hundred percent sure. But, yeah, I think anybody who has that crystal ball, I'd","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=2327.0,2328.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/720","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"love to meet that person, but certainly, I think--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=2328.0,2328.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/721","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eQ:\u003c/strong\u003e We all would.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=2328.0,2328.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/722","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eBONACCI:\u003c/strong\u003e --yes, no, it--yeah, I think it's definitely going to be around with us","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=2328.0,2329.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/723","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"for a bit at least.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=2329.0,2329.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/724","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eQ:\u003c/strong\u003e Right, and you did have that project where you were working on long COVID, so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=2329.0,2330.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/725","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eBONACCI:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, and to that point, even if the day-to-day COVID infections go","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=2330.0,2330.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/726","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"away, I think we will still be faced with the aftermath of many, many people,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=2330.0,2331.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/727","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"thousands upon thousands or more who are dealing with longer-term effects from","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=2331.0,2331.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/728","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"their previous infections. And so even if COVID does go away, I don't think--and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=2331.0,2332.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/729","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"certainly its impacts both on our society and on individual patients that I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=2332.0,2332.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/730","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"think we will continue to bear these scars for many years to come.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=2332.0,2332.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/731","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eQ:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, I agree. Well, we're coming up on this last question that I always end","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=2332.0,2333.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/732","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"with, and that is what else have we covered that you'd like to share? Is there","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=2333.0,2334.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/733","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"something from your clinician days, some experiences there or--? I'd leave it there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=2334.0,2334.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/734","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eBONACCI:\u003c/strong\u003e You know I think I'd like to share that I remain hopeful for our","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=2334.0,2335.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/735","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"future. I think there's certainly a lot to feel upset about or cynical about","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=2335.0,2336.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/736","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"after the last few years or after the last two years of the COVID response and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=2336.0,2337.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/737","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the--what feels like a fraying of the fabric of community, how long is the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=2337.0,2338.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/738","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"pandemic going to be with us, there's a lot that you could feel pessimistic","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=2338.0,2339.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/739","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"about, but I think I still feel hopeful that there are things that we can do and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=2339.0,2340.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/740","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"there are ways that we can improve our response not only to COVID, but to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=2340.0,2341.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/741","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"improve our health system. I hope COVID serves--continues to serve as a wake-up","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=2341.0,2341.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/742","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"call for our need for a more equitable system of healthcare in the United","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370#t=2341.0,2342.0"},{"id":"https://globalhealthchronicles.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2849/collection_resources/134485/file/253370/transcript/71444/annotation/743","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"States. 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